please explain this: track vs. conversion
11-28-06 | 05:55 PM
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please explain this: track vs. conversion
It seems to me that there is some stigma against conversions in comparision to a track bike. Could someone please explain this dichotomy to me? I don't see why a conversion would be viewed as inferior... if anything to me it seems like someone put forth the effort into constructing something they love... as opposed to just buying a track bike as is... would be respected?
Just something I don't understand, thanks.
Just something I don't understand, thanks.
11-28-06 | 06:01 PM
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conversions and track bikes are both cool.
people just like to feel better about themselves and talk **** about other peoples bikes because the dropout aren't facing the right way.
anway, we just had a whole thread talking about this and it went on for pages.
just search for it, i'm sure you'll find it.
people just like to feel better about themselves and talk **** about other peoples bikes because the dropout aren't facing the right way.
anway, we just had a whole thread talking about this and it went on for pages.
just search for it, i'm sure you'll find it.
11-28-06 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gregg
Conversions are road bikes, road bikes have different geometry from track bikes and don't have horizontal dropouts. Thats the difference
11-28-06 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon
Then there's the onslaught of Taiwanese (not that there's anything wrong with that) bikes that are kind of like road bike with track ends. That's what I ride.
11-28-06 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
Give us an example? You mean those ugly Leader frame?
11-28-06 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gregg
Conversions are road bikes, road bikes have different geometry from track bikes and don't have horizontal dropouts. Thats the difference
11-28-06 | 06:27 PM
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i understand the geometric differences, and frame differences. i wasn't asking the difference between the two. i just want to know why conversions are often viewed inferior. i don't get it. where does the disdain come from?
11-28-06 | 06:30 PM
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Who said conversions are inferior? It's a mixed bag on that subject. Some conversions just palin kick ass, some suck and some track bikes really aren't track bikes.
11-28-06 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by urbanplanner19
i understand the geometric differences, and frame differences. i wasn't asking the difference between the two. i just want to know why conversions are often viewed inferior. i don't get it. where does the disdain come from?
Speaking as an urban planner with a conversion myself.
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11-28-06 | 07:01 PM
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I have no beef with conversions.
11-28-06 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobpriest
Man **** Conversions! All They Do Is Ruin Bikes And Bike Culture
11-28-06 | 09:35 PM
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****! i just bumped it! and i'm doing it again!
at least i'm not continuing the insipid original discussion. just ride some bikes.
at least i'm not continuing the insipid original discussion. just ride some bikes.
11-29-06 | 01:11 AM
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11-29-06 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by urbanplanner19
i understand the geometric differences, and frame differences. i wasn't asking the difference between the two. i just want to know why conversions are often viewed inferior. i don't get it. where does the disdain come from?
11-29-06 | 08:49 AM
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Well, one reason why you might consider a conversion inferior, that i didn't see mentioned above is the BB height. A Track bike with a high BB will be easier to pedal fast through corners than most road bike frames with lower BB's.
Not necessarily a reason to be snooty against conversions, but one reason you might prefer a frame that was designed to be a fixed gear.
Not necessarily a reason to be snooty against conversions, but one reason you might prefer a frame that was designed to be a fixed gear.
