Originally Posted by mezza

Um, you are kidding right? Its actually aroudn 26cm-ish... Is that what you meant or am I getting the wrong end of the pineapple?

Originally Posted by sers

i was thinking the same thing.

however, as far as the custom steel vs stock carbon goes for me, i'm still indecisiven (not that it really matters because i don't have $3k to spend on a frameset). i read a biketechreview article a couple months back that basically broke down the resistances a rider faces on a zero net elevation course. it was something like 60% rider drag, 8% wheel drag, 8% frame drag, 12% tire rolling resistance and then down from there. what i wonder is if a custom frame would have a distinct advantage into getting the rider into an ideal aerodynamic position, to the extent that it offsets it's own aerodynamic inferiority to a prefab carbon.

Originally Posted by Walkercycles

10.5 inch is not safe for any track banked steeper than 28*. Now, there is an exception to that rule...if you pedal fast enough to keep the bike on the low angle of the track, i.e., keep the bike more perpandicular to the track surface, you wont scrape a pedal. However, I keep my BB's set a a MINIMUM level of 11.25 I even raise it if they are on a shorter, steeper track. Reason? Sometimes you slow down in a race and dont want to dig a pedal into the banking. Better safe than scabbed! I always say...

Maybe the folks at Forest city enforce the 17mph rule and no one rides on the track unless they are going that speed, which would make it safe. Again, a 10.5 BB scares the crap out of me...

DW

Originally Posted by shapelike

You're probably right, but here's the D2 Pista off bianchi.it's site that's been up for a few months:

image: http://www.bianchi.it/it/products/im...terimage=19336
text: http://www.bianchi.it/it/products/pr...idmaster=18945

Originally Posted by queerpunk

pssht. i wouldn't want a bike with components made out of fog.

Originally Posted by shapelike

Ya, FCV is 50* so I don't know how much I like the sounds of a low bb ... and 30kph (~17mph) is screamed at anyone who's not moving fast enough. The only time I've seen someone doing less than 30kph on that track is their first lesson on it getting up to speed for the first turn (and getting screamed at to speed up) or on the apron coming off the track.

Originally Posted by vomitron

There was recently an article posted around here about the MIT TT team. Supposedly they're dominating because they're not complete idiots and they're taken the above into consideration.

Originally Posted by Walkercycles

If those forks are 28mm rake, I am Donald Trump...

Originally Posted by DC_Emily

I *heart* Bianchi, but I just can't get psyched about this frame. Unfortunately, Bianchi's popularity has fallen off lately, assumingly due to quality v. price. *nothing* they have out right now gets me excited.

I'll hang onto my 2002 giro road frame, I suppose.

Originally Posted by Serendipper

The Filmore is nice, the components...not so much. But for $700.00...

Good to see you around Emily! How was your track season? Cat up?

Originally Posted by Shiznaz

Isn't the Filmore a Lemond?