NYC courier
#1
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oh me, i'm human
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From: NYC (Washington Heights)
Bikes: '79 Raleigh Sprite/'06 Pista
NYC courier
hi all,
i'm a fixed-gear rider of three weeks, minus a few days as my bike's ass was destroyed by a Penske truck last Friday(you might have seen me walking down 37th street, bike on my shoulders,rear wheel bent completely out of shape, in the rain, worlds biggest frown on face).
i'm giving my job two weeks notice for leave this Friday and have been considering messenger work. i figure if 40 year-old men can do it on big, f*cked up mountain bikes then i can do it well.
any advice for a novice or warnings and other such pointers are appreciated. i'm trying to get an idea of what i'm getting myself into.
THANK YOU.
i'm a fixed-gear rider of three weeks, minus a few days as my bike's ass was destroyed by a Penske truck last Friday(you might have seen me walking down 37th street, bike on my shoulders,rear wheel bent completely out of shape, in the rain, worlds biggest frown on face).
i'm giving my job two weeks notice for leave this Friday and have been considering messenger work. i figure if 40 year-old men can do it on big, f*cked up mountain bikes then i can do it well.
any advice for a novice or warnings and other such pointers are appreciated. i'm trying to get an idea of what i'm getting myself into.
THANK YOU.
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#6
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oh me, i'm human
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From: NYC (Washington Heights)
Bikes: '79 Raleigh Sprite/'06 Pista
ha, yes! i'm thinking maybe i shouldn't make a living out of it as well. ideally i don't want to, but i'm considering it.
i've got a brake on it..here's what happened..
i'm riding in between the truck and a car..car's on the right truck's on the left, it's a tight squeeze and everyone's waiting for a red light. the car cuts into the left lane, cutting me off, i stop short/brake/fall of my bike, and the truck rolls right over my rear wheel, just missing my leg. i don't even think he saw me he was so huge. i was so bummed.
i've got a brake on it..here's what happened..
i'm riding in between the truck and a car..car's on the right truck's on the left, it's a tight squeeze and everyone's waiting for a red light. the car cuts into the left lane, cutting me off, i stop short/brake/fall of my bike, and the truck rolls right over my rear wheel, just missing my leg. i don't even think he saw me he was so huge. i was so bummed.
#8
Don't think you shouldn't make a living out of messenger work before you have even tried it. If you are seriously considering it, try it. If you don't like it, do something else.
Good thing you are ok.
Good thing you are ok.
#9
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From: Williston, VT
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Originally Posted by senorbeige
i've got a brake on it..here's what happened..
i'm riding in between the truck and a car..car's on the right truck's on the left, it's a tight squeeze and everyone's waiting for a red light. the car cuts into the left lane, cutting me off, i stop short/brake/fall of my bike, and the truck rolls right over my rear wheel, just missing my leg. i don't even think he saw me he was so huge. i was so bummed.
i'm riding in between the truck and a car..car's on the right truck's on the left, it's a tight squeeze and everyone's waiting for a red light. the car cuts into the left lane, cutting me off, i stop short/brake/fall of my bike, and the truck rolls right over my rear wheel, just missing my leg. i don't even think he saw me he was so huge. i was so bummed.
#10
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From: washington dc
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Originally Posted by mattface
Even the most expensive wheels are much cheaper than the cheapest prosthetic limbs.
#15
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From: ankle deep in the gowanus canal
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december's a good month to start, plenty of high-paying jobs to go around until the 26th, so even a novice can make money without busting his ass.
take it slow for the first week.
treat your dispatcher well.
take time to think your routes through.
make sure you have a bike you enjoy riding.
try not to get angry.
take it slow for the first week.
treat your dispatcher well.
take time to think your routes through.
make sure you have a bike you enjoy riding.
try not to get angry.
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From: Toronto
Bikes: Urbanite Road Bike, Mielle Fixed Gear Conversion, Vintage Lejeune Track Bike
Originally Posted by senorbeige
ha, yes! i'm thinking maybe i shouldn't make a living out of it as well. ideally i don't want to, but i'm considering it.
i've got a brake on it..here's what happened..
i'm riding in between the truck and a car..car's on the right truck's on the left, it's a tight squeeze and everyone's waiting for a red light. the car cuts into the left lane, cutting me off, i stop short/brake/fall of my bike, and the truck rolls right over my rear wheel, just missing my leg. i don't even think he saw me he was so huge. i was so bummed.
i've got a brake on it..here's what happened..
i'm riding in between the truck and a car..car's on the right truck's on the left, it's a tight squeeze and everyone's waiting for a red light. the car cuts into the left lane, cutting me off, i stop short/brake/fall of my bike, and the truck rolls right over my rear wheel, just missing my leg. i don't even think he saw me he was so huge. i was so bummed.
#18
Originally Posted by mattface
I wouldn't have been bummed. You lucked out. Even the most expensive wheels are much cheaper than the cheapest prosthetic limbs. Count your blessings.
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Don't listen to these guys. If you're a novice, just don't ride so aggressively until you get the hang of it. Just because you're a messenger doesn't mean you have to have 4 minutes between every pickup and dropoff and make $800 a week.
Advice: never run a light unless you're sure you'll make it through. Don't break a leg trying to cut a little minute off your time. You are never in such a hurry that you need to take bad risks. Don't cut off other messengers. They're your only allies out there. Don't piss off your dispatcher. He's pretty much the only person you talk to all day, and they can make your day hellish or heavenly if they want to. Don't argue with security guards. You can't win.
Watch out for ****ing taxis. The faster they drive, the more money they make so they drive like messengers ride except they don't have to worry about getting hurt. They also pay a lot of attention looking for fares. If it's stopped, expect any door on the taxi to fly open.
Advice: never run a light unless you're sure you'll make it through. Don't break a leg trying to cut a little minute off your time. You are never in such a hurry that you need to take bad risks. Don't cut off other messengers. They're your only allies out there. Don't piss off your dispatcher. He's pretty much the only person you talk to all day, and they can make your day hellish or heavenly if they want to. Don't argue with security guards. You can't win.
Watch out for ****ing taxis. The faster they drive, the more money they make so they drive like messengers ride except they don't have to worry about getting hurt. They also pay a lot of attention looking for fares. If it's stopped, expect any door on the taxi to fly open.
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Originally Posted by boots
december's a good month to start, plenty of high-paying jobs to go around until the 26th, so even a novice can make money without busting his ass.
take it slow for the first week.
treat your dispatcher well.
take time to think your routes through.
make sure you have a bike you enjoy riding.
try not to get angry.
take it slow for the first week.
treat your dispatcher well.
take time to think your routes through.
make sure you have a bike you enjoy riding.
try not to get angry.
good post. Too bad nothing like this was around when I started.
S/F,
CEYA!
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Originally Posted by get_nuts
Don't listen to these guys. If you're a novice, just don't ride so aggressively until you get the hang of it. Just because you're a messenger doesn't mean you have to have 4 minutes between every pickup and dropoff and make $800 a week.
Advice: never run a light unless you're sure you'll make it through. Don't break a leg trying to cut a little minute off your time. You are never in such a hurry that you need to take bad risks. Don't cut off other messengers. They're your only allies out there. Don't piss off your dispatcher. He's pretty much the only person you talk to all day, and they can make your day hellish or heavenly if they want to. Don't argue with security guards. You can't win.
Watch out for ****ing taxis. The faster they drive, the more money they make so they drive like messengers ride except they don't have to worry about getting hurt. They also pay a lot of attention looking for fares. If it's stopped, expect any door on the taxi to fly open.
Advice: never run a light unless you're sure you'll make it through. Don't break a leg trying to cut a little minute off your time. You are never in such a hurry that you need to take bad risks. Don't cut off other messengers. They're your only allies out there. Don't piss off your dispatcher. He's pretty much the only person you talk to all day, and they can make your day hellish or heavenly if they want to. Don't argue with security guards. You can't win.
Watch out for ****ing taxis. The faster they drive, the more money they make so they drive like messengers ride except they don't have to worry about getting hurt. They also pay a lot of attention looking for fares. If it's stopped, expect any door on the taxi to fly open.
other's made vaild points as well as you.
S/F,
CEYA!





