threaded vs threadless
#28
Originally Posted by gfrance
....anymore. It wasn't that long ago that they still were using them...something like 1999, and the performance differential between then and now is pretty minimal. But I do agree with your argument here, 100%.
I ordered the threadless, and will keep it that way. Thanks for the help.
I ordered the threadless, and will keep it that way. Thanks for the help.
#29
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I've built and ridden all threaded bikes so far, but can definetely see how threadless has an upper hand on threaded on everything but aesthetics; I'm making my new IRO threadless since it'll be a beater...should be a fun experiment.
#30
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Originally Posted by Accident
I've built and ridden all threaded bikes so far, but can definetely see how threadless has an upper hand on threaded on everything but aesthetics; I'm making my new IRO threadless since it'll be a beater...should be a fun experiment.
#34
Originally Posted by dutret
Thats why you just use 1 1/8" with a shim.
The selection of 1" threadless forks is more limited. They are nice for upgrading older bikes that take 1" forks, but if you are buying a frame new make sure you get 11/8".
#36
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Originally Posted by Aldone
It's more a personal choice
I prefer threatless
I prefer threatless
#37
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i say threaded looks the best when coupled with matching track drops, and or is a drop stem.
but threadless by far is the most practical and stiffest/strongest/cheapest/bestest option out there.
but threadless by far is the most practical and stiffest/strongest/cheapest/bestest option out there.
#38
i wanted to go threaded, because i have so many quill stems with bars in them laying around, but im going to bite the bullet and embrace progress. i cant wait to be able to switch bars without rewrapping or messing with grips.
#41
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Originally Posted by mander
I tried the torsion test on my 10cm quilled bars today and damn, they are really quite flexy. Dutret, when all of the bunk is debunked, what will you do then?
#42
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How would a steel quill stem compare in flexiness to alloy quills or alloy threadless stems? It seems that a steel threadless would be stiffer than a steel threaded.
I ordered an iro with threads and have been thinking about changing it, but then I wouldn't be able to run a really awesome front rack I found.
I ordered an iro with threads and have been thinking about changing it, but then I wouldn't be able to run a really awesome front rack I found.
#43
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I'm going threadless, clipless, brakes. There, I said it.
1 1/8" threadless headsets have taken over the market, evil little things, and are coming to attack your lugged track bikes!!!
1 1/8" threadless headsets have taken over the market, evil little things, and are coming to attack your lugged track bikes!!!
#44
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Originally Posted by you
How would a steel quill stem compare in flexiness to alloy quills or alloy threadless stems? It seems that a steel threadless would be stiffer than a steel threaded.
I ordered an iro with threads and have been thinking about changing it, but then I wouldn't be able to run a really awesome front rack I found.
I ordered an iro with threads and have been thinking about changing it, but then I wouldn't be able to run a really awesome front rack I found.
#45
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Steel isn't all that stiff: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/images/tacoma3.avi
That's from wind.
That's from wind.
#46
Originally Posted by rknj
Steel isn't all that stiff: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/images/tacoma3.avi
That's from wind.
That's from wind.
that's actually from sympathetic vibration induced by wind, iirc. every object has a frequency that, if it vibrates at that frequency, the vibration waves magnify - instead of ever canceling each other out, they build and build and build until, well, you have a seriously ****in' broken bridge. [can somebody check my physics explanation? i'm just tryin to remember from high school physics here] edit:: vocab word: RESONANT FREQUENCY.
that doesn't mean that steel isn't stiff or strong or any other adjective or characteristic.
cool video though.
#47
Originally Posted by rknj
Steel isn't all that stiff: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/images/tacoma3.avi
That's from wind.
That's from wind.
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salsa still makes steel stems......i think they even do a custom option,i know they used to threaded/threadless....any lenght/rise you want
#49
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Originally Posted by queerpunk
not opening on my work comp but i'm pretty sure i know this vid.
that's actually from sympathetic vibration induced by wind, iirc. every object has a frequency that, if it vibrates at that frequency, the vibration waves magnify - instead of ever canceling each other out, they build and build and build until, well, you have a seriously ****in' broken bridge. [can somebody check my physics explanation? i'm just tryin to remember from high school physics here] edit:: vocab word: RESONANT FREQUENCY.
that doesn't mean that steel isn't stiff or strong or any other adjective or characteristic.
cool video though.
that's actually from sympathetic vibration induced by wind, iirc. every object has a frequency that, if it vibrates at that frequency, the vibration waves magnify - instead of ever canceling each other out, they build and build and build until, well, you have a seriously ****in' broken bridge. [can somebody check my physics explanation? i'm just tryin to remember from high school physics here] edit:: vocab word: RESONANT FREQUENCY.
that doesn't mean that steel isn't stiff or strong or any other adjective or characteristic.
cool video though.
Edit: Here's the wiki on resonance for anyone curious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance
#50
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Forget steel, we all know it can bend like crazy. What really amazes me is how the actual ****ing concrete waved all over the place on the Tacoma bridge without cracking. Yeah, that's a classic vid.
Incidentally, the bridge offered a wide (tall) target and a not very aero shape for the wind to attack and it was ridiculously narrow for its length AFAIK. So it was poor design + really bad luck.
Incidentally, the bridge offered a wide (tall) target and a not very aero shape for the wind to attack and it was ridiculously narrow for its length AFAIK. So it was poor design + really bad luck.





