Schwinn World worth putting a couple hundred into?
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Schwinn World worth putting a couple hundred into?
I have been looking for a decent frame to convert to fixed for a backup/bad weather bike. I got the frame for free so it's not a big deal if it really is ****.
The only thing worth salvaging is the stem and bars so I ripped everything else off (no crank puller though)
What do you think, worth getting a set of cxp22s/formula wheels, new bb, headset, cranks, seat, seatpost etc?
I figure I could set it up for a little over 200. I honestly have no idea where to get used parts around here to lower the cost so the plan was to buy new load end pieces.
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The only thing worth salvaging is the stem and bars so I ripped everything else off (no crank puller though)
What do you think, worth getting a set of cxp22s/formula wheels, new bb, headset, cranks, seat, seatpost etc?
I figure I could set it up for a little over 200. I honestly have no idea where to get used parts around here to lower the cost so the plan was to buy new load end pieces.
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Why would you need a new BB, cranks or headset? All those
components look functional to me. There's definitely no point
in investing any real money into components for a junky old
Schwinn, but if all you need in a set of wheels, seatpost and
saddle, you're still around $200, which is a fine amount for a
fixed gear beater.
components look functional to me. There's definitely no point
in investing any real money into components for a junky old
Schwinn, but if all you need in a set of wheels, seatpost and
saddle, you're still around $200, which is a fine amount for a
fixed gear beater.
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Headset is completely rusted on the inside. The pedals are rusted to the cranks on top of the fact that the chainrings are bent. I figure if I'm replacing the cranks, I might as well spend the extra 15 bucks on a cheap bb like this one: https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...tom%20Brackets
Also I have CXP22s on my pista so I could just upgrade to some DeepVs/Open Pros or something along those lines.
Also I have CXP22s on my pista so I could just upgrade to some DeepVs/Open Pros or something along those lines.
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If you have to get all that stuff your really close to the price of a new bike.Lot to choose from for under
$500.
$500.
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is it just me or is that a nicer world than most, forged dropouts and the seat cluster looks a little more ornate
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Originally Posted by adababy12
If you have to get all that stuff your really close to the price of a new bike.Lot to choose from for under
$500.
$500.
I really wish I could find some decent used parts though, I'll look around Dayton this weekend while visiting my parents.
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well maybe.. that frame is just an ok frame- not a piece of poo, but nothing fancy either- a solid steel frame that will serve you well.
personally i wouldn't pour lots of $$$ into it unless the bike was complete, and i could reuse as many parts as possible, and/or i had a very sizable spare parts bin that i could pillage parts from for free.
but if you want a beater ride or something, then this frame seems like a good choice. i think it would be stupid and pointless to make this bike a trackbike wannabe and/or put lots of nice ($$) parts on it.
but yea, whatever.. build it up if you want, don't build it if you don't want to.
personally i wouldn't pour lots of $$$ into it unless the bike was complete, and i could reuse as many parts as possible, and/or i had a very sizable spare parts bin that i could pillage parts from for free.
but if you want a beater ride or something, then this frame seems like a good choice. i think it would be stupid and pointless to make this bike a trackbike wannabe and/or put lots of nice ($$) parts on it.
but yea, whatever.. build it up if you want, don't build it if you don't want to.
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Originally Posted by freeskihp
is it just me or is that a nicer world than most, forged dropouts and the seat cluster looks a little more ornate
it's a bike on the low-end side of midrange.
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Oh yeah I'm not trying to bling this thing out. Basically I'm just trying to find the cheapest parts I can while still having a complete bike for class/rain/snow/bars.
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Originally Posted by orbThorn
Oh yeah I'm not trying to bling this thing out. Basically I'm just trying to find the cheapest parts I can while still having a complete bike for class/rain/snow/bars.
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$200 sounds a bit conservative. I think you're closer to $300...but then again if you're doing all the work yourself then you could always move all the parts to a new frame at no cost, so it would be an investment that won't depreciate much.
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Originally Posted by goldener
cool. go for it then...but try to stay cheap. i'd repack the headset and bb unless they were severely severly pitted. and i'd reuse the cranks. a bike co-op may be of use in trying to find cheap, used parts.
but this is why I thought I needed a new headset.
I have no idea about the BB though, I've never really messed with one so hopefully I can salvage it.
The closest co-op is in Bloomington, 2 hours away. I do have a friend at IU so next time I'm down there well have to stop by.
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You should be able to find a standard ISO threaded headset
for dirt cheap on eBay. We're talking less than $10 with
shipping, at least the last time I looked. It's no Chris King,
but if you pack it with enough grease, it'll get the job done.
for dirt cheap on eBay. We're talking less than $10 with
shipping, at least the last time I looked. It's no Chris King,
but if you pack it with enough grease, it'll get the job done.
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I've got a cruddier World and love it.
What I would do: Find a new chainring, build a wheel, clean up the headset/bb races and bearings with a scotchbrite pad and some degreaser/cleaner/gasoline/whatever, throw on some old cages and clips, a new chain and call it good. That is basically what I did to mine (bought the wheel from the lbs though (free build)).
What I would do: Find a new chainring, build a wheel, clean up the headset/bb races and bearings with a scotchbrite pad and some degreaser/cleaner/gasoline/whatever, throw on some old cages and clips, a new chain and call it good. That is basically what I did to mine (bought the wheel from the lbs though (free build)).
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damn, in my world that is a pristine bearing race on a headset. Clean, grease and re-use.
No reason why that crankset cannot be used either.
Take the BB out and clean and regrease it also. It is probably just fine.
Dare I suggest that you use whatever wheels came with the frame? Re-space, re-dish, and screw on a cheapish, but decent cog.
My sense is that you only "have" to spend $20 to make that thing a fixed gear. Pay for a cog, and use what you have. If you like your new ride, then start saving up for a purpose-built fixed gear.
No reason why that crankset cannot be used either.
Take the BB out and clean and regrease it also. It is probably just fine.
Dare I suggest that you use whatever wheels came with the frame? Re-space, re-dish, and screw on a cheapish, but decent cog.
My sense is that you only "have" to spend $20 to make that thing a fixed gear. Pay for a cog, and use what you have. If you like your new ride, then start saving up for a purpose-built fixed gear.
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Originally Posted by jgedwa
damn, in my world that is a pristine bearing race on a headset. Clean, grease and re-use.
No reason why that crankset cannot be used either.
Take the BB out and clean and regrease it also. It is probably just fine.
Dare I suggest that you use whatever wheels came with the frame? Re-space, re-dish, and screw on a cheapish, but decent cog.
My sense is that you only "have" to spend $20 to make that thing a fixed gear. Pay for a cog, and use what you have. If you like your new ride, then start saving up for a purpose-built fixed gear.
No reason why that crankset cannot be used either.
Take the BB out and clean and regrease it also. It is probably just fine.
Dare I suggest that you use whatever wheels came with the frame? Re-space, re-dish, and screw on a cheapish, but decent cog.
My sense is that you only "have" to spend $20 to make that thing a fixed gear. Pay for a cog, and use what you have. If you like your new ride, then start saving up for a purpose-built fixed gear.
The wheels are gone, so that option is out
The cranks...on top of the whole pedals rusted on them, I'd rather just spend 30-40 bucks on some bulletproof cranks from ebay. I already have some extra pedals to use so that wouldn't be a problem either.
That leaves me to buy new bearings (maybe), cranks, wheels and a cog/lockring. I think I can handle that.
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headset bearings look to be in normal condition for an older bike (from what i can see).
grab some degreaser, a toothbrush, and some steel wool, and you can make those bad boys look new again.
grab some degreaser, a toothbrush, and some steel wool, and you can make those bad boys look new again.
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I think you are putting too much thought into this; buy a fixed wheelset from eBay for 150$USD and you are good to go. Get some new bearings, use the old crank that is on there, find some handlebars in a dumpster, grease the hell out of everything and you are good to go.
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I have a white and red world that I'm working on as well. I'm debating on keeping the old wheels and leaving it a geared bike w/ the HT shifters, they all cleaned up really well.
I sanded it down and gave her a nice Testors blue metal flake rattle can job. The paint on yours looks like much better condition.
Do you know the BB size for this? I haven't begun to look for new parts yet.
I sanded it down and gave her a nice Testors blue metal flake rattle can job. The paint on yours looks like much better condition.
Do you know the BB size for this? I haven't begun to look for new parts yet.
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BB for these will be standard english thread 68 mm. Length depends on your cranks. If the existing one is salvageable, a 1mm spacer on the drive side and using the inner position gets you there on 90% of road bikes.
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Originally Posted by dutret
this is absurd. Replace the bearings they are basically free and it will work better. Don't worry about the cage.