cyclist killed in boston today
04-11-07 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Juha
Well said. If anyone feels their ego needs further boosting, do it elsewhere. Thank you.
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04-11-07 | 02:12 PM
#153
Originally Posted by Landgolier
I know mods are volunteers and all of that, but does anyone else get a little annoyed when mods who are not regular participants in SSFG randomly drop in on this board and declare how things are going to be?
04-11-07 | 03:42 PM
#154
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https://media.www.nu-news.com/media/s...mlemailedition
Sorry - I guess you have to logon, but it seems like a fair story, and there is a shot of the ghost bike. Good job raising awareness.
Sorry - I guess you have to logon, but it seems like a fair story, and there is a shot of the ghost bike. Good job raising awareness.
04-11-07 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dutret
Everyone asserting that splitting lanes here was the safest option had actually convinced me I was wrong. But they also had me under the impression that the cars were moving faster then a bike could and that doing anything remotely safe or taking another route was completely unavoidable. Sorry, but splitting lanes because traffic is backed up is never the safest option(though it may be safer then cruising the shoulder.) The safest option would be to sit in traffic with all the other vehicles because you value your life and safety more then the few minutes you can save by cutting through traffic or possibly passing very slowing on the shoulder. Yeah it sucks but unfortunately splitting lanes through even slow moving traffic is incredibly dangerous. If this truly was an intersection where the traffic is traveling at 30, there is no safe shoulder and absolutely no alternate route that avoids it short of walking the bike on the sidewalk(even if it is a mile longer) then I stand corrected.
I may not live in boston but I have spent combined weeks there as well as ny and every other major city in this country. No matter where I go I always see a certain segment of cyclist riding with little respect for anyone else on the road or for there own safety. Some accidents truly are unavoidable. Maybe this was one of them but the fact that he was splitting lanes and the behavior of 22yo male messenger bag wearing cyclists in general makes me doubt it.
I may not live in boston but I have spent combined weeks there as well as ny and every other major city in this country. No matter where I go I always see a certain segment of cyclist riding with little respect for anyone else on the road or for there own safety. Some accidents truly are unavoidable. Maybe this was one of them but the fact that he was splitting lanes and the behavior of 22yo male messenger bag wearing cyclists in general makes me doubt it.
what a crappy thing to say. no offense against you, but a kid dying from being hit by a car should not be your soapbox to teach everyone who reads this that you are smarter than a guy who died. i'm a huge defender of free speech, but knowing the correct time and place to speak your mind is just as important.
anyone doing the ride in Boston, please let me know if there is a way i can help, even if it's paying some of the cost for the spoke card thingy. pm me. and if anyone reading this forum knew the guy, my condolences.
04-11-07 | 07:58 PM
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i feel that the city should suspend the driver's license temporarily pending the d.a.'s decision to press charges for vehicular manslaughter.
i have no doubt in my mind that cab drivers are the most aggressive drivers in this city, and they seem to have a penchant for turning without signaling and illegally parking, not to mention their fares who swing open doors without looking. a looming possibility of suspended licenses & medallions is the sure fire way to get the attention of the cabbies in this town.
by the way - anyone know what cab company it was?
i have no doubt in my mind that cab drivers are the most aggressive drivers in this city, and they seem to have a penchant for turning without signaling and illegally parking, not to mention their fares who swing open doors without looking. a looming possibility of suspended licenses & medallions is the sure fire way to get the attention of the cabbies in this town.
by the way - anyone know what cab company it was?
04-11-07 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kcham16
If anyone reading this forum knew the guy, my condolences.
And I assure you there are members of the form a readers of this thread who knew him, I just want everyone to be aware it not just a possibility that people who knew him will read what you write here it's a fact. Please keep that it mind. (this isn't really addressed at you kcham)
04-12-07 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Landgolier
I know mods are volunteers and all of that, but does anyone else get a little annoyed when mods who are not regular participants in SSFG randomly drop in on this board and declare how things are going to be?
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04-12-07 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Morgie
why PM?
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04-13-07 | 11:09 AM
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Gordon Riker's brother has been posting regularly on Boston-specific boards about his brother's death. He sounds like a nice guy who is obviously very saddened right now.
04-21-07 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stickyfoot
Maybe so, and perhaps they both deserve sympathy to an extent.
Let me relay a story that Chris Phelan, the Ride of Silence's founder, emailed to myself and a few others last year.
Chris was at charity event in the Dallas area early in 2006, and noticed one of the "volunteers" going about his business, in very humble low key manner. Chris struck a conversation with the man, whom it turned out was doing community service work. As the conversation continued, the man sadly admitted why he was required to do this; He was the bus driver who had struck & killed Chris' good friend, endurance cyclist Larry Schwartz, the reason Chris organized that 1st Ride of Silence in Dallas in 2003.
The bus driver continued, that he had been sentenced to jail time, was now released to do 1,000's of hours of community service work, had lost his job, lost his family, was close to being financially destitute and deeply regretted what had happened, all without knowing who Chris was.
Chris felt that perhaps there is more than one victim when cyclist/motorist accident happens, that it not only impacted Larry Schwartz's family and friends, but the bus driver's as well. It was at this point that Chris was finally able to begin to forgiving process.
Fellow MA's, Duxbury just came on board a few days ago, but still no Ride listed in the general Boston area. Please in consider organizing a Ride in my favorite city, Boston.
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05-14-07 | 07:33 PM
#163
I was just reading your thread because I'm a mother who lost her only child in September of last year to a methamphetamine fueled individual that hit my son (who was wearing a helmet and no ear buds, was a Cat 2 racer and knew the rules of the road and followed them) head on at 80 mph and kept going until he crashed without injuries to himself. He then popped open a 32 or however ounces they come in but BIG Coors and downed it. He left my son to die and didn't even know he killed someone. He was so clueless as to be a robot behind a 2 (?) ton machine. My son died with his entire insides ripped out of his body. I know this because I saw him in the E.R. He was my only son and was 31 years old, and a responsible, contributing member of society working as a Biomedical Engineer. He was on a noon training ride. The guy that killed him was out of his mind by 12:17 when my son was killed.
I just want to say that if you have not had a memorial ride for this fallen cyclist, or even if you have done so, there is a website that will direct you to a place in your area that you can go to do so once again for him and for any of the other cyclists that have been killed just because they like to ride a bike.
The website is www.rideofsilence.com
Hurry because it's happening on Wednesday of this week. That's the 16th of May. You just go to the website and show up. No dues, no tee-shirt, no B.S.
Respectfully,
Mary Ann
I just want to say that if you have not had a memorial ride for this fallen cyclist, or even if you have done so, there is a website that will direct you to a place in your area that you can go to do so once again for him and for any of the other cyclists that have been killed just because they like to ride a bike.
The website is www.rideofsilence.com
Hurry because it's happening on Wednesday of this week. That's the 16th of May. You just go to the website and show up. No dues, no tee-shirt, no B.S.
Respectfully,
Mary Ann
Last edited by MaryAnn; 05-14-07 at 07:39 PM.
05-14-07 | 11:16 PM
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Thank you very much, there has been some discussion of this on Bostonfixed.com (a boston specific bike forum). Unfortunately Boston lost another cyclist less than a month after Gordon. You can find details here: https://www.bostonfixed.com/comments....nID=134&page=1
