View Poll Results: How many spokes would you use?
32 front 32 rear



50
47.62%
32 front 36 rear



8
7.62%
36 front 36 rear



35
33.33%
Some other exotic combination (please specify)



12
11.43%
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How many spokes?
#1
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From: Black Light District
How Many Spokes?
If you were going to build a set of wheels for a fixed road bike, how many spokes would you use front and rear? Maybe post your specific choice of components (hubs, spokes, nipples, rims) and your reason(s) for using them...
Last edited by cinegabe; 04-04-07 at 09:38 PM.
#2
for my next wheelset, i'm going with 36 front and rear - i seriously doubt i'll notice the added weight of four spokes, and it's worth it to me for the added strength, given i'll be building up box-section rims, not v-section. also, i prefer the symmetry of having the same spoke count front and rear.
#3
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From: SF, CA
Bikes: IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
Depends on rider weight, street conditions, lacing pattern, tradition vs. style points...
#4
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From: Denver, CO
Bikes: '06 Bianchi Volpe, '09 Mercier Kilo TT, '08 Jamis Exile 29er
I recently built a pair of 32 spoke Formula/Open Sport wheels with DT 2.0/1.8 spokes and they're great. I'm 290 lbs and ride on the ****ed up streets of Denver, so they should be fine for most people in most places. I was going to build 36 spoke wheels, but 32h components are more conveniently available and the wheelbuilder at my LBS said he'd built more than 100 sets of those wheels for various people and never had one fail.
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#9
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From: Black Light District
Originally Posted by el twe
Depends on rider weight, street conditions, lacing pattern, tradition vs. style points...
I'm thinking the 700c High-Flange seen here, but doing them myself with black spokes. They look like 32/32.
Last edited by cinegabe; 04-04-07 at 10:05 PM.
#14
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From: Cracow, Poland
Bikes: unknown make TT bike, fixed; Romet Sport, gone; titanium Pinarello gone;Colnago with Campy C-Record/Super Record,on it's way; Funny Gianni Motta; Buehler track, Polrad track chrome; titanium MTB on 28'', fixed; Tri Wheeler, fixed
32x32 abrosio pro to disc bloodline fronts
32x32 mavic gl330 to Mack/formula
28x28 nisi to Super Record high flange
28x28 zipp 303 to hope rear disc / soul-kozak front disc
28x28 mavic argent 10 to ???
16x16 shamal track to mack/C record front
sole fronts:
bora 16 650c, nisi 32 650c, shamal 12, shamal 16 650c
Edit: I like shamals, they prove I am not a weight weenie
So to provide something useful: select A Note on Spoke Count under Aerodynamics - it talks about stiffness and "feel", too
32x32 mavic gl330 to Mack/formula
28x28 nisi to Super Record high flange
28x28 zipp 303 to hope rear disc / soul-kozak front disc
28x28 mavic argent 10 to ???
16x16 shamal track to mack/C record front
sole fronts:
bora 16 650c, nisi 32 650c, shamal 12, shamal 16 650c
Edit: I like shamals, they prove I am not a weight weenie

So to provide something useful: select A Note on Spoke Count under Aerodynamics - it talks about stiffness and "feel", too
Last edited by vobopl; 04-05-07 at 12:06 AM.
#15
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32H Formula hubs, three cross laced Sapim Race spokes (2.0 1.8 2.0), and Open Pros are my everyday wheels.
On my nice bike I have 28h Campy Record Pista High Flange hubs laced to Mavic CXP 30s with Sapim Race spokes.
I regularly ride over cobblestone streets and have had no problem with either wheelset.
On my nice bike I have 28h Campy Record Pista High Flange hubs laced to Mavic CXP 30s with Sapim Race spokes.
I regularly ride over cobblestone streets and have had no problem with either wheelset.
#17
I am surprised that so few use the more obvious combo, 32 front 36 rear. Don't you people read sheldonbrown.com?

Maybe because I am into building my own wheels, so I made this into a bit of a science, but really, same number of spokes front and rear just makes poor sense.

Originally Posted by Sheldon "Wheels" Brown
If you have the same number of spokes front and rear, either the front wheel is heavier than it needs to be, or the rear wheel is weaker than it should be.
Last edited by wroomwroomoops; 04-05-07 at 02:11 PM.
#19
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From: portland, or
Bikes: Bridgestone Grand Velo Track
most hubsets are sold same number front and rear. at least that's what I've commonly seen.
I have 28 3x front and back. I would've gone with more spokes but I got a set of 28H Aeroheads for $5 at the swap meet so I opted to just build them. They've lasted 2 years apart from my front axle threads stripping (don't buy suzue basics) riding normal to rough roads all over california. I'm only 135 lbs tho.
I have 28 3x front and back. I would've gone with more spokes but I got a set of 28H Aeroheads for $5 at the swap meet so I opted to just build them. They've lasted 2 years apart from my front axle threads stripping (don't buy suzue basics) riding normal to rough roads all over california. I'm only 135 lbs tho.
#21
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From: Cowtown, AB
Bikes: Titus El Guapo, Misfit diSSent, Cervelo Soloist Carbon, Wabi Lightning, et al.
32H F/R, 3x, Formula/IRO to Open Pro, 15/16/15 spokes, alloy nipples
While I believe damn near everything Sheldon says, going to a 28H front or a 36H rear doesn't make tons of sense for me. I do a lot of nose wheelies, so I need that extra strength up front.
While I believe damn near everything Sheldon says, going to a 28H front or a 36H rear doesn't make tons of sense for me. I do a lot of nose wheelies, so I need that extra strength up front.
#23
ohs noes! i have one "set" that's 36 front, 32 rear!
it's fairly mismatched, but i'm not about to drop enough money to make them match just cause they should. i guess i have a front wheel that's unnecessarily heavy. it's lighter than the back wheel, though, and goes out of true more often. probably because it takes more abuse. oh well.
it's fairly mismatched, but i'm not about to drop enough money to make them match just cause they should. i guess i have a front wheel that's unnecessarily heavy. it's lighter than the back wheel, though, and goes out of true more often. probably because it takes more abuse. oh well.
#25
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From: DC
Bikes: 1990 Kotter Albuch, 2005 Empella Spaar Select Cross, 2007 Ridley Aedon
Originally Posted by vobopl
So to provide something useful: select A Note on Spoke Count under Aerodynamics - it talks about stiffness and "feel", too




