operator

Yeah and I could also sell you a perfectly working steel frame for like $20 if you want.

late

Paid several hundred for mine, and the price has since gone up to basically a grand for the frame
and fork. I think it's amazing.

charles vail

No worries mate!

SD Fixed

So you don't own one, the people you're arguing with don't own one. And yet you're claiming they don't have a clue?

Welcome to assclownville, population: you.

charles vail

I don't think he is offending anyones intelligence.......for people who want a simpler geared bike, he offers an alternative to one gear, that does, in fact, give the rider some options, that extend the bikes usefullness, over varied terrain. I think he has also stated that, "if you have the legs for it", in regards to the riding of a limited gearing bike! What he is generally saying is exactly correct, in that, most above 30 something riders who aren't flyweights should probably be using lower gearing overall and that is what he sells on his multi geared bikes. For a single speed, he is simply trying to offer and profit from, a growing interest in single speed and fixed gear riding. For some of us even the over 30 crowd we can ride a single speed/fixed if our topography allows it or we are dedicated /fit riders who have trained for it. He also has stated in the reader that (he, Grant) walks up a few hills on his Quickbeam. If you check out cyclofiend.com you can look at the selection of owners ridng the QB and read about ccjims experience with it on a 100 mile ride. I recently got my single speed (63 inch gear) put together and I am 48 and 260 pounds with one banged up knee. I intend to use it on my 9 mile daily excercise route which is mostly flat, except for a mile long, modest climb, at the end. I know I can make the climb since I have done it in one gear on my geared bike. I built mine for the fun of it and because I had the junk parts laying around. When I go on a serious ride, with hills, I take my geared bike. Until I can get to 180 pounds I will never be able to ride a ss/fg too far, in my area.

charles vail

No....I had spoken to and read statements from others, who have used them and liked them very much. What I am reacting to is, the critsism based on appearance, with no regard for anyones experience. At least I am willing to accept the possibility that the saddle might in fact be a good one rather than, sit around wringing my hands worrying what my pals will think if I put one on my bike! And yes.....if they dismiss it on the basis of appearance then they don't have a clue.

Now, if it had spikes sticking out of the leather then maybe I would dismiss it too but hey, maybe some riders are into pain!

charles vail

His QB gearing gives him a 48 inch and a 60 inch gear! One for hills and headwinds and one for general rolling hills. I suppose one could up the gearing for flatter terrain. The addition of a two speed rear cog could work nicely giving you a 45 inch (32x19) 56 inch (40x19) and a 67.5 inch (40x16) You could then add a fixed cog on the flip flop for fixed riding. Not sure how the chain slack would work out but if its within the 8 tooth range its certainly better than one gear if you have any hills. For a general purpose non deraileur bike its not a bad way to go. Sheldon Brown writes of a simular project bike utilizing a triple giving him (Sheldon) a more usefull range of gearing. I predict many SS/FG riders will be converting to hub gears in the future or you will see alot of bikes on E-Bay.....I'm waiting.

vobopl

I am talking about pure mechanical issue: 4T difference in the rear, at the fork-ends/dropouts capacity to take the chain slack gives you 125% range if you start with 16T smaller cog. How it is worse than 8T difference at the chainring, clearly beyond any dropout capacity and giving exactly same 125% range if you start with 32T smaller chainring is beyond me.

charles vail

Not sure exactly what you mean here but I know the QB has a 32 and 40 tooth with 18 tooth rear cog. This gives the bike a 48 and a 60 inch gear. Adding a double rear cog of 19 and 16 teeth would allow a 45",56", and a 67.5". This of course would eliminate the 32x16 combo due to chain slack. The QB dropouts are longer than standard horizontal dropouts or even most track dropouts. Rivendell had them made special for the 8 tooth difference on the front chain ring. If I am wrong on this, I'm sure someone will correct me.

mander

I'm amazed at how vocal some people are about their dislike for Rivendell and Grant Peterson. Like another poster, I won't drink the guy's koolaid but I have to respect his style.

FlippingHades

If you'd read all of the Quickbeam product page, you'd know that the Quickbeam has specially designed dropouts that can handle an 8T difference, so it's not "clearly beyond any dropout capacity". The bike was designed for it.

abeyance

The last flame war that was this bad was in SE Asia about 35 years ago.

Just enjoying the view.

vobopl

I stand corrected. how is that better than 4t difference in the back and shorter, stiffer dropout?

mander

Well, with a flipflop hub you'd have a four-speed, no?

charles vail

More drop out travel=bigger gear spreads whether it is from a rear cog difference or a chain ring difference.
I think Rivendell may have had the two speed freewheel, they sell, in mind, when designing the bike. Hence the double chain ring........or possibly a hub gear option!