wah wah wah. i was obviously exaggerating. still, i can think of a number of streets going up from first, and a lot of queen anne that i wouldn't want to touch.

Oh, gotcha

i've heard that the "mess industry" has taken a hit in the last few years, and that there are 1/2 as many messengers in seattle as there were 5 years ago.

if you want to talk to the messengers, they hang out at 6th? & Pine at that little coffee stand.

and as for the hills (to others on this thread) - HTFU! hills will make you stronger. i've done queen anne up to kerry park on a 14x40 fixed gear and lived to tell about it (including going back down w/ no brake)

I was recently pulled over on 8th and Pine at 8:30 in the morning. The previous morning I saw Officer Mulkey pulling over two commuters in the same spot around the same time. I saw him again patrolling 8th yesterday. He sits and hides on 7th and 8th in between Pike and Pine catching the morning commuters coming down Pine all morning long. The fine is much too high and we need to request that it be lowered to it's original amount and that Mulkey do something more constructive with his time besides pulling over TAX PAYING citizens on the way to work who pay these officer's salaries. Here's an idea...serve and protect your citizens instead of reducing them to dollar signs. More specifically he could park on 2nd and Pike where people are skipping school and have tried to mug/threaten/sell me drugs/aggressively panhandle me and others I know on many different occasions. Instead he chooses to waste our taxpayer money and time as a glorified meter maid. I think Mulkey needs to grow a pair and focus on criminal activity instead of civil infractions and bothering us!

Wow.