gear ratios for skidding
#2
It's an old photo
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From: Entropia
Bikes: Cannondale R500, Specialized Hardrock
I started on like 65 or so. Make sure you have clipless pedals, or really tight straps, because you need to pull up with your front foot.
And honestly, do a ****ing search. There have been so many threads about this.
And honestly, do a ****ing search. There have been so many threads about this.
#3
Senior Member
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From: Van BC
The lower the better. Something 70 or downwards should be fine for learning. Really though the key is to try skidding on a low traction surface; dry pavement is a difficult skidding surface for a noob. Find a grassy area, some rotten leaves, wet and oily pavement, or whatever, and give er there.
#5
out of shape
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From: va
Remember that static friction is higher than kinetic friction, so the tire takes more force to break free than to hold a skid. Shifting your weight forward on your hands (a friend of mine says "balls to the stem") helps with that.
#11
Originally Posted by me thinkst
Try hopping the rear of the bike to get used to unweighting and locking up the rear wheel.
And use a brake until you get confidence...
And use a brake until you get confidence...
#12
I play in the street.
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From: College: K-State; Home: Overland Park, KS
Bikes: 2005 Allez Triple, 1971 Schwinn Varsity Fixed Gear Conversion
I found that small gravel or dirt (like a baseball diamond) was the best surface for learning to skid.
Re: the original question:
The lower the ratio, the easier it will be to skid, but assuming your ratio isnt ridiculous, you should be able to do it. Practice riding around with as much weight on the bars as possible. "Balls to stem" is a good way to think about it. As you get better and stronger, you can shift you weight backwards more and stop faster.
Re: the original question:
The lower the ratio, the easier it will be to skid, but assuming your ratio isnt ridiculous, you should be able to do it. Practice riding around with as much weight on the bars as possible. "Balls to stem" is a good way to think about it. As you get better and stronger, you can shift you weight backwards more and stop faster.
#13
Originally Posted by Revolution Smmr
why would you pick your gear ratio based on skidding? it's a bike... ride it.
p.s. I'm sorry to be harsh, but really...
p.s. I'm sorry to be harsh, but really...
Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.
#14
Renegade Caveman
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From: Evanston, IL
Bikes: Cannondale Mtn '89, Giant Bowery '06
I've found that 2 glasses of red wine works best. I learned to skid after I'd had a few - more in tune with the world around me - when I figured it out. Oh, and it was a patch of wet bricks that made it easy. Ok, maybe it wasn't the wine. It was completely me. And the wet bricks.
170mm cranks
49/16
Now I can do it almost anywhere.
*\o/*
170mm cranks
49/16
Now I can do it almost anywhere.
*\o/*
#15
Renegade Caveman
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From: Evanston, IL
Bikes: Cannondale Mtn '89, Giant Bowery '06
Originally Posted by Pfutz
Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.
#16
Originally Posted by Ellis4TW
I've found that 2 glasses of red wine works best. I learned to skid after I'd had a few - more in tune with the world around me - when I figured it out. Oh, and it was a patch of wet bricks that made it easy. Ok, maybe it wasn't the wine. It was completely me. And the wet bricks.
170mm cranks
49/16
Now I can do it almost anywhere.
*\o/*
170mm cranks
49/16
Now I can do it almost anywhere.
*\o/*
+10 for buzzed bike riding off the red wine.
#17
Mices Can Bit You
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From: C-Bus, Ohio
Bikes: Vintage Motobecane, Schwinn Conversion
just get your nuts on the stem and lean forward when you lock your legs. you'll do it.
I can't imagine leaning so far forward that you couldn't skid and just fall before you get the chance to.
I can't imagine leaning so far forward that you couldn't skid and just fall before you get the chance to.
#20
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From: Brooklyn, NY
Bikes: 1970s Gazelle 10 spd -- Cheap 1980s no-name conversion
Originally Posted by Pfutz
Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.
#21
Originally Posted by Revolution Smmr
did I ever say he shouldn't learn to skid? All I said is that choosing a gear ratio based on skidding is ridiculous. As long as he picks a normal gear ratio he'll be able to skid with some practice, just like everyone else who has ever gotten on a fixed gear. Better that he picks a ratio that he'll actually have fun riding on than one that's only 60 gear inches that will get him dropped by anyone he rides around with. Oh, and as for the "we all get that you are really cool" line, my myspace address is at the bottom of every post I make, so everyone in this forum can go see how uncool I really am. I wish more people did that.
This is a substantially more constructive post that your first one, which was so cliche and generic that I knew someone was going to say befor I even clicked the thread. The point is, we get it, we get that half the kids in this forum are going to bring down any sort of question someone asks, and the people posing those questions get it too, so just save everyone the trouble and just not bother saying it.
You can sleep easy knowing you may not be as stupid as everyone else, but you are not going to help anyone out by just throwing in side comments, so if you are not helping anyone out then what are you doing? Most of the time it seems 2/3rds of the posters in this forum are just jerking off their own egos.
#22
sharkfin.
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From: philllaaaaay.
Bikes: davidson track. landshark
Originally Posted by zacked
40 gear inches
180mm stem with long bullhorns
Stayer fork
48cm frame
24" front wheel
No saddle
Duct tape around the outside of the tire
On an ice rink
180mm stem with long bullhorns
Stayer fork
48cm frame
24" front wheel
No saddle
Duct tape around the outside of the tire
On an ice rink
hahaha.
#23
park ranger
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From: mars
Bikes: recumbents
Originally Posted by Pfutz
Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.



