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Old 05-10-07, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by newnoise
most people who actually do messenger work run plastic cages for this reason
Say what?
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so i was told...

edit: and i wasn't implying everywhere... just portland, though i only know two messengers from portland, and i'm not sure if they're even there anymore....
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Not saying you weren't, but something doesn't add up about it. I've seen ten times as many broken plastic clips as metal...
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yeah, i suppose it's different kinds of breaking involved. if the steel ones do a lot of bending, then it seems like it'd wear them out and they'd fail from metal fatigue whereas plastic would be liable to just crack.

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... reading all of these posts I'm remembering other pedals I've also had. I guess to sum it up, for me, is that I'm just a fickle son of a ***** and so I'm glad I have a pedal wrench. That way I can just switch my pedals from clipless to clips and straps to suit my mood. By the way, my favorite clipless set-up I've had is Candy SLs with Sidi Dominators, and my favorite clips and straps set-up is MKS Sylvan TOURING pedals (since they are so wide and I have big feet) with metal clips and (currently) nylon straps (since my leather ones were slipping). Maybe I'll go to double-straps to see if they hold better. But I love the touring pedals... my only concern is pedal strike since they are so wide.
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Bfssfg loves to hate spd's but I like my Shimano M520's. They are not that much more expensive than nashbar or wellgo knockoffs (mine were $40 or so) and like the 505s they replaced, they have never given me a problem.
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i have two sets of MKS Sylvans and a set of Time Aliums.

the sylvans are fine. i like how they feel (clips and straps, obviously), but i need to buy some better straps.

the aliums are my first experience with clipless pedals, and cliplessness is great, but i think i'd prefer something with more tension than these have.
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vintage dura-ace pedals,campy double leathers

havent found anyone else riding em
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Originally Posted by queerpunk
i have two sets of MKS Sylvans and a set of Time Aliums.

the sylvans are fine. i like how they feel (clips and straps, obviously), but i need to buy some better straps.

the aliums are my first experience with clipless pedals, and cliplessness is great, but i think i'd prefer something with more tension than these have.
I've never ridden clipless before, but I'm on the verge of picking up some Aliums. From what I've been reading, it's good for your knees to have a little bit of float. Is the looseness of the Aliums so much that it takes away from the benefit of being clipless?
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave
Not saying you weren't, but something doesn't add up about it. I've seen ten times as many broken plastic clips as metal...
I seem to break metal clips all the time. The ones I see in bike shops around here (MKS maybe?) seem very brittle. Sometimes they break from hitting the ground during the 1-2 pedal revolutions before I get clipped in, and sometimes I think the occassional bending when I clumsily put my foot on top of the clip instead of in it wears them out.

I'm currently running plastic clips on one of my bikes to see if they hold up better. The other bike has some old metal clips that I salvaged off a 70's road bike. They seem sturdier but I haven't been running them long enough to be sure.
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I ordered some toshi's with my custom nuevos.
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Custom nuevos w/ double Toshis... Mad Comfy...
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Originally Posted by megatron
vintage dura-ace pedals,campy double leathers

havent found anyone else riding em
Best reason for using a piece of equipment EVAR!!!



I know you didn't mean it like that.
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MKS Sylvans, MKS L steel toe clips, Toshi doubles. And I take 'em off-road.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
Best reason for using a piece of equipment EVAR!!!



I know you didn't mean it like that.
no, i use them because the strap sticks to them like flies on ****, theyre comfy, theyre older than i am and still spin like brand new, and if i can find cleats for them (pd-64s) i can take them on the track and be h-core.

That is all.
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There is a reason why you haven't found anyone else riding them and why they sell for next to nothing on ebay(I think the only reason it's not nothing is cause people get confused about which pedals they are).

Unless you are using real shoes calling them "comfy" is almost farcical and that's just the start of their issues.
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Originally Posted by Revolution Smmr
I've never ridden clipless before, but I'm on the verge of picking up some Aliums. From what I've been reading, it's good for your knees to have a little bit of float. Is the looseness of the Aliums so much that it takes away from the benefit of being clipless?
No. They don't unclip or anything, they just let you twist your feet side-to-side a little so you can find your comfort zone. They're actually very solid.
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For those who have made the switch from SPDs to Eggbeaters, did you notice a huge improvement? I run SPDs exclusively on all my bikes, and while they work great on all the freewheel variations, I'm not entirely satisfied with them on fixed. I can clip in and out on command 95% of the time, but there's always that 5% of the time where you bomb out of a stop and your shoe slips on the clip.

Can Eggbeaters clip in "reverse"? Do you have any problems with them coming out accidentally?

Now that I have a spare pair of SIDIs sitting in the corner, I'm thinking of making the switch. Recommended?
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No. They don't unclip or anything, they just let you twist your feet side-to-side a little so you can find your comfort zone. They're actually very solid.
cool, that's what I've expected out of them. I know that the Aliums have been trashed a little on the forum (compared to the xe's), but as long as the only complaints are for weight and aesthetics, I can deal with that for the $45 price tag and the benefits of the ATAC system.
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Originally Posted by dutret
There is a reason why you haven't found anyone else riding them and why they sell for next to nothing on ebay(I think the only reason it's not nothing is cause people get confused about which pedals they are).

Unless you are using real shoes calling them "comfy" is almost farcical and that's just the start of their issues.
they are obviously worth 'next to nothing' if a NOS set goes for over 350 USD. Also, I am assuming that you are stating that people purchase them thinking that they are shimano 600's. They are based on the 600 design, which also includes a slot for cleats, both dura-ace and 600 slots can be removed so that it is comfy without having the cleats for the slots. These are a simply better version of the 600s, spin smoother, etc.

The reason the 7400s were not extremely popular was because they were introduced close to when clipless was coming into major play. I ride clipless and clips and straps. Clipless at the drome and clips and straps on the street as I dont feel completely comfortable clipless-brakeless.

Also, for the record, I ride these with stiff soled diadora cycling shoes (flat soled) from around the same era. Maybe you have tried these with your thin little canvas slip ons and decided they were the worst pedals ever. Although im banking on the fact that youve never even rode on DA 7400s, or even Shimano 600s. So maybe you should shut your mouth.

Ps. do you even ever go outside and ride a bike?
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Originally Posted by nonnumericdave
Can Eggbeaters clip in "reverse"?
yes. all 4 sides of the standard model.

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Do you have any problems with them coming out accidentally?
only when the cleats get worn out (you usually can get a few thousand miles on them before they get too worn, they're brass). replacements are $15-20, and at most bike shops.

Originally Posted by nonnumericdave
Now that I have a spare pair of SIDIs sitting in the corner, I'm thinking of making the switch. Recommended?
yessir.
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Originally Posted by megatron
they are obviously worth 'next to nothing' if a NOS set goes for over 350 USD.
Lol you made the mistake that I assume people on ebay make when they buy those pedals. The ones you posted require the special crankset pictures next to them and have a negative stack height. The ones that sell nos for 350 to luddites have neither of those features.

Yes I have ridden on them, owning both the ones pictured and 600's, with the real cleats they are like clipless that you can't get into and out of, regular cleats they are slightly worse then standard pedals and with soft soled shoes next to worthless. Did you miss where I said "real shoes"? Why anyone(including 99% of sprinters) would with clips and cleats in this day and age is completely beyond me.

Maybe you should shut you mouth? Do you have 7400s or the 7300s pictured? Did you simply not realize that there was a difference?
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