Forgot to tension chain....
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Forgot to tension chain....
Yeah, destroyed half of my Surly fixed/fixed hub w/Surly cog/Dura Ace lockring tonight....
Assembled my bike after it took a ride in my buddy's car... (biked to his house, grabbed his car, tore bike down and threw in trunk, drove to the airport, picked him up, got a ride home and re-assembled bike)
Didn't double-check my chain tension upon re-assembly.
Took off to go meet some friends at the local brewpub... noticed some slack in the chain... thought "damn, this isn't good".... couple seconds later, threw the chain off my ring, unscrewed my cog, stripping the lockring threading right off, wrapped the chain around the axle, locking the wheel at 25mph, about 2" away from a passing car.
Total damage: I side of fixed/fixed hub gone for good, 9 spokes need replacing.
Assembled my bike after it took a ride in my buddy's car... (biked to his house, grabbed his car, tore bike down and threw in trunk, drove to the airport, picked him up, got a ride home and re-assembled bike)
Didn't double-check my chain tension upon re-assembly.
Took off to go meet some friends at the local brewpub... noticed some slack in the chain... thought "damn, this isn't good".... couple seconds later, threw the chain off my ring, unscrewed my cog, stripping the lockring threading right off, wrapped the chain around the axle, locking the wheel at 25mph, about 2" away from a passing car.
Total damage: I side of fixed/fixed hub gone for good, 9 spokes need replacing.
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I'm inclined to believe in a different story: You lockring/cog assembly wasn't tight enough or the threads on 1 or more of 3 parts was crap/buggered by subpar user => cog came off => chain came off => carnage.
A simple dropped chain causes a minor scare and zero damage to lockring threads and such.
A simple dropped chain causes a minor scare and zero damage to lockring threads and such.
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i would've assumed the same (cog/lockring too loose) but for the fact that the hub looks like it'd been ridden as assembled for some miles...
still, i don't see how the chain hopping off would cause such a disaster..
something must've failed before the chain came off...
(also i wonder if lacing the wheel in the other direction would've kept the chain from jamming so badly)
still, i don't see how the chain hopping off would cause such a disaster..
something must've failed before the chain came off...
(also i wonder if lacing the wheel in the other direction would've kept the chain from jamming so badly)
Originally Posted by LóFarkas
I'm inclined to believe in a different story: You lockring/cog assembly wasn't tight enough or the threads on 1 or more of 3 parts was crap/buggered by subpar user => cog came off => chain came off => carnage.
A simple dropped chain causes a minor scare and zero damage to lockring threads and such.
A simple dropped chain causes a minor scare and zero damage to lockring threads and such.
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Originally Posted by LóFarkas
I'm inclined to believe in a different story: You lockring/cog assembly wasn't tight enough or the threads on 1 or more of 3 parts was crap/buggered by subpar user => cog came off => chain came off => carnage.
A simple dropped chain causes a minor scare and zero damage to lockring threads and such.
A simple dropped chain causes a minor scare and zero damage to lockring threads and such.
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Originally Posted by riderx
Agreed. Simply put, dropping your chain is not going to rip the cog off of the hub.
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Originally Posted by dutret
if the dropped chain gets caught on something and locks up the rear wheel it seems pretty possible to me. Think of it as violent rotafixing.
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Originally Posted by dutret
if the dropped chain gets caught on something and locks up the rear wheel it seems pretty possible to me. Think of it as violent rotafixing.
The most force you'll be able to apply is determined by the friction of the tire, it'll be the same as a hard skid. It doesn't matter if the chain stops moving because it's caught on something, or if it stops moving because the cranks aren't moving (skidding).
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Originally Posted by ersatz radio
That doesn't make any sense.
The most force you'll be able to apply is determined by the friction of the tire, it'll be the same as a hard skid. It doesn't matter if the chain stops moving because it's caught on something, or if it stops moving because the cranks aren't moving (skidding).
The most force you'll be able to apply is determined by the friction of the tire, it'll be the same as a hard skid. It doesn't matter if the chain stops moving because it's caught on something, or if it stops moving because the cranks aren't moving (skidding).
I run a 38c tire, going 25mph, am 190lbs. Chain fell off the chainring and wrapped under itself at the cog, heard it tear apart after the chain fell. Trust me, the cog and lockring were on there nice and tight.
I was going at a speed where I would have had to lean way forward to even think about skidding, but had all my weight on the saddle.
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Originally Posted by ersatz radio
That doesn't make any sense.
The most force you'll be able to apply is determined by the friction of the tire, it'll be the same as a hard skid. It doesn't matter if the chain stops moving because it's caught on something, or if it stops moving because the cranks aren't moving (skidding).
The most force you'll be able to apply is determined by the friction of the tire, it'll be the same as a hard skid. It doesn't matter if the chain stops moving because it's caught on something, or if it stops moving because the cranks aren't moving (skidding).
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I should have taken a picture of the chain wrapped under itself, then perhaps you guys would believe me.
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Word, last night on the ride home i noticed man chain seemed slack. I was close to home and ignored it, then forgot to deal with it before bed.
I remembered on my way out the door at 6:40am today, and dealt with it, making me late for work, but I'm glad I did it. Also glad nothing bad happened.
I remembered on my way out the door at 6:40am today, and dealt with it, making me late for work, but I'm glad I did it. Also glad nothing bad happened.





