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Old 07-06-07 | 10:16 PM
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Erba Keirin Frame

::EDIT:: I meant Erba


Gimme info. Can't find any anywhere. All I know is that they were Japanese Kierin frames that aren't made anymore.
I'm getting one for free from my coach tomorrow hopefully, it should be stiff enough, and wasn't raced much according to the guy who used to race it. It's also purple, not sure what color it's going to be when it's ready to race.

Pics would be cool too.
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Old 07-06-07 | 10:23 PM
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Comes from Kyoto. Stopped production. I once read the builder now just does sculptures or something.
Dont have pics but ive seen these frames a few times.
Check here maybe
https://www.pedalmafia.com/bikecheck.html


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Old 07-07-07 | 11:16 AM
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Pics of mine here. Nicest track frame I've ever ridden. Made by a Mr Ogino in Kyoto, Deathhare is correct in that he no longer makes frames except to do repair work for professional riders still racing his frames, and rather does steel sculpture instead. He also did all the graphic design work for the frames. Not a lot of these frames around, they make 3Renshos look common.

Edit: A pic of mine (not the original fork).

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Old 07-08-07 | 07:27 PM
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Here's one picture:



On the saddle that came with the bike, there is a marking on the underside of it, it looks like it says NJS, but it's not the current stamping. It's made by Fujita Saddles.
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Old 07-08-07 | 08:26 PM
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sick! do NOT repaint it. it looks so rad. i can't believe you got this for free, oh cruel world...
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Old 07-08-07 | 08:36 PM
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not NJS, but JIS
Japanese Industrial Standards
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not NJS, but JIS
Japanese Industrial Standards
All toilets in japan and about anything else in a household is JIS too.
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sick! do NOT repaint it. it looks so rad. i can't believe you got this for free, oh cruel world...
I love the purple, but it has to go. Decals will be made before it's sand blasted, and the paint will look good. You can see in the picture that some different shade of purple was **** into the nice purple, and there are chips on it. There's also an axle sized ding on the down tube, and two small ones on the top tupe near the seat tube. The brake bridge has also been filed down and into the correct shape, and when the decals are in my hands is when the magic begins.
So far I'm using:
Sugino 75 Cranks
FSA Vigorelli rings
Sugino 75 Mighty bottom bracket
Look Keo pedals (need to get another set so I don't have to swap from road bike)
Dura-Ace hi-flange 32 hole hubs
Dura-Ace cogs
Velocity Escape tubular rims
Hatta Swan headset
SR Royal stem until I get a Nitto Alloy
Nitto CrMo 40cm deep drop bars
Remanufactured Clement pista tubular tires
and either the purple Fujita that came with it, or a San Marco Concor black suede saddle.


The new color should be close to the same color as the Fujita. Also, I'm not sure what pursuit bars I should use, I don't think I should use anything chromed, because aerobars need to be mounted.



Lastly, the frame wasn't really 'free'. My dad gave me his Mercier Kilo TT, and it had less than 100 miles on it. My coach said he'd trade me frames. So I gave him the Mercier frame/fork/headset/post and he gave me his frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket.
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Old 07-08-07 | 10:16 PM
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I can't believe that you would fathom repainting that beautiful bike.
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Old 07-08-07 | 10:18 PM
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with a purple bike youd better be a contender

if not youre a joke
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Old 07-08-07 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by deathhare
All toilets in japan and about anything else in a household is JIS too.
go figure - it is a standard applied to a large range of products manufactured in Japan
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with a purple bike youd better be a contender

if not youre a joke
I'm a contender with this:
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Old 07-08-07 | 10:26 PM
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sorry contenders dont drive minivans
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Old 07-08-07 | 10:34 PM
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is that a langster or a bowery (sp)?
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Old 07-08-07 | 10:46 PM
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that guy is tripping. Purple is nice! and not too loud at all, if that's what he's referring to.

I ride a fluoro pink njs frame, and I'm definitely not a contender, ha ha!
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Old 07-08-07 | 11:20 PM
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youre insane. you prefer the look of the bowery over that beautiful purple erba?
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Old 07-08-07 | 11:22 PM
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and aerobars? are you nuts?
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Old 07-08-07 | 11:52 PM
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The purple looks pretty good man. Considering these frames arent being made anymore..you might think a little harder about it before you paint it.
Its your frame though...so i guess youll make the call.
What color were you thinking to paint it?
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Old 07-09-07 | 02:25 AM
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+1 for keeping the purple, but whateva.

+3 for JIS. SHIFT into JIS!!!
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Old 07-09-07 | 07:03 AM
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1.) It's a Bowery in that picture.
2.) I race at a National level, it needs to serve a purpose
3.) The paint is in awful condition and there are 3 different colors on it now
4.) I love the color too, but I'm OCD
5.) You'll probably like the new color better anyhow
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Should also be noted that I'm trying to get my hands on some replacement decals for both our frames. Sick frames, and at least some of them are NJS-certified. Mine lacks the NJS stamp as far as I can tell, though the paint's all messed up where it would be anyway. In any case, Erba was an NJS-certified builder.
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Originally Posted by deathhare
All toilets in japan and about anything else in a household is JIS too.
serious?

****.

now i want a JIS house.
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Old 07-09-07 | 06:37 PM
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just curious, anybody have pictures of "Mr Ogino's" sculptures?
i did a google search, is it Koichi Ogino?
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Old 07-09-07 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave
Should also be noted that I'm trying to get my hands on some replacement decals for both our frames. Sick frames, and at least some of them are NJS-certified. Mine lacks the NJS stamp as far as I can tell, though the paint's all messed up where it would be anyway. In any case, Erba was an NJS-certified builder.
I talked to one of the bike shops today while I was getting sahoes today, and one of the guys told me a good place to get vinyl decals made. I didn't get to stop in because I had something else to do. If he's got good prices I'll get them, if he doesn't, I can get them from another source.

More pics:
The fork was drilled for road use by this Keirin racer:


The dent from the axle during shipping (downtube):


The bottom bracket area with Sugino 75 Mighty BB:

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Old 07-13-07 | 06:19 PM
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Just getting back from a big race, should have updated earlier.

I went to go check on decals; the dolt wants $500 to reproduce the 5 decals that are on the bike. I said no. My coach has another Erba that he's going to take to a friend who does decals and have them copied off of that frame. So until the decals arrive, the frame is goign to be prepped for paint. I actually found the perfect color match for the frame, it's a Giant 2007 color on the women's FCR (flat bar road bike), but I can't get a hold of it, so I'm still going to use the ultra-Japanese paint that I have.
I've got work, then a ride tomorrow, and then a MTB ride in Southern Ohio on Sunday, so either Tuesday or Wednesday will be day one of prepping.
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