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kwhord 07-10-07 05:41 AM

I have a digital camera w/ a video setting. I'll try to snap some footage today.

AfterThisNap 07-10-07 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by purplebike
I rode with flip flops on my clipless pedals the other day (stupid yes, but whatever). It was only to the local bar and back, but still...it can be done. :)

I'm soooo guilty of doing this too. Rode five miles to the beach with the SIDIs, felt so good with the sand between my toes I flip flopped it on the way back home. Dumb for sure.

dutret 07-10-07 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Nullius
Or, "I think I know what I'm doing, and am way better than you. But really I am just so clueless I can't comprehend my own folly"

there you go.

MrCjolsen 07-10-07 10:18 AM

My ghetto fixie is my one bike without clipless pedals. I ride it around town, and make no point to go any slower than I would on my other bike.

I tried straps, but I couldn't get my feet and then couldn't get them out. Made me very nervous, since long-term trackstanding isn't one of my skills.

I don't think there's any danger with clipless and platforms as long as you have a brake. I'd wear shoes, though.

samuelalberts 07-10-07 09:12 PM

i probably rode just about 34 miles today, fixed, platformed, and brakeless, with a 48x16 and I definitely was never scared or out of control. though i must say I can totally see how using clips/straps can be helpful and will probably purchase some soon. I have been using a brake as long as I have ridden fixed and just took it off recently to see how well I could perform without it. again, not necessary but if i were in a pickle boy oh boy would i like to have that brake.
anyway, to say that riding fixed with platforms is completely nonsensical is simply your opinion, I happen to get along just fine along with big piles of other people.
blah blah blah

MIN 07-10-07 09:36 PM

Case in point:

Take a regular road bike with both front and rear brakes. Attempt a maximum deceleration test with both front only and rear only brakes. Front brakes win every time. This is not refuteable.

This is why cars have larger rotors in the front wheels. Same with motocycles. It's a matter of physics - when stopping, forward weight transfer occurs.

To claim that one could stop better with rear brakes (let alone brakeless with a fixie) is foolish. Sure, you might be able to stop and be in control, but a brakeless fixed gear bicycle will never have the stopping power of a front brake equipped bike.

hiredgoons 07-10-07 09:43 PM

The fact that what you are saying is true doesn't make it relevant.

MIN 07-10-07 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by hiredgoons
The fact that what you are saying is true doesn't make it relevant.

Maybe I should have quoted 90% of the responses to this thread where the topic of discussion was the (lack of) stopping power in brakeless fixed gear bikes (on platforms.)

BTW, I have no interest in the bike you might have or whether or not you run brakes. Natural selection will take its course, as far as I am concerned. I just want to set the misinformation straight.

doofo 07-10-07 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by kwhord
I don't have any video.

If you think it's that much of a stretch just ask anyone who rode with me in the Evil Alleycat in cincy.

if you are implying that you are fast

imagine how much faster you would be with a more efficient drive train

if not

uhh.....huh
?

hiredgoons 07-10-07 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by MIN
Maybe I should have quoted 90% of the responses to this thread where the topic of discussion was the (lack of) stopping power in brakeless fixed gear bikes (on platforms.)

BTW, I have no interest in the bike you might have or whether or not you run brakes. Natural selection will take its course, as far as I am concerned. I just want to set the misinformation straight.

Nowhere in this thread has anyone said that it's possible to stop faster on a brakeless bike than on a bike with a front brake. People are questioning whether it's safe to ride a fixed gear (especially a brakeless one) with platform pedals. An obvious statement about the relative stopping power of front and back brakes cut-and-pasted from another thread has nothing to do with whether platform pedals on a fixed gear are a good idea.

MIN 07-10-07 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by hiredgoons
Nowhere in this thread has anyone said that it's possible to stop faster on a brakeless bike than on a bike with a front brake. People are questioning whether it's safe to ride a fixed gear (especially a brakeless one) with platform pedals. An obvious statement about the relative stopping power of front and back brakes cut-and-pasted from another thread has nothing to do with whether platform pedals on a fixed gear are a good idea.

And where would this concern for safety stem from? The fact that you can't stop without brakes? That's my point.

bonechilling 07-10-07 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by MIN
And where would this concern for safety stem from? The fact that you can't stop without brakes? That's my point.

A point that is totally off-topic.

hiredgoons 07-10-07 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by MIN
And where would this concern for safety stem from? The fact that you can't stop without brakes?

Swing, and a miss.

seitenryu 07-10-07 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by MIN
Case in point:
To claim that one could stop better with rear brakes (let alone brakeless with a fixie) is foolish. Sure, you might be able to stop and be in control, but a brakeless fixed gear bicycle will never have the stopping power of a front brake equipped bike.

First this must be destroyed, the reaction of the rear wheel is to lift under both circumstances. Once it has no more traction you'll go endo or skid either way. A lot of people feel there is better brake modulation(feel) on fixed gear because of a direct mechanical connection whereas brake calipers use friction not direct resistance for modulation. Oldies might suggest that training with platforms is a fantastic way to improve cadence. None of my friends who ride platforms with a front brake use it consistently anyways, so reaction time, correct and precise modulation of the front brake are not always on the table. Personally I swear by clipless because for work speed is the ultimate goal. Can you stop within 5-10 feet without eventually wearing out your rims with brakes?
Never used brakes on my work(track) bike

SAm

zelah 07-10-07 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by kwhord
Come to Louisville and I'll show you how we ride.

http://lh5.google.com/kwhord/Rowm38M...s800/primo.jpg

like idiots on ****ty bikes? kewl d00d

Morgie 07-11-07 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by nathbdp
Louisville is full of scrubs. Come represent in DC, Philly, NYC, or Boston... Son. You probably can't even keep up with the fair weather riders up here.

for real! I bet in a Boston you would be laughed away for that ****.. seriously that ****s so retarted we prolly won't want you ridden in our rides/races...

Retem 07-11-07 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by bonechilling
Nothing screams "I don't know what the **** I'm doing"
like platforms and no brakes.

I have a friend who rides and races on bmx pedals he also works on the same bike 10hrs a day 5 days a week and he is fast...

I myself have ridden a few times on my clipless pedals with tennis shoes on

kwhord 07-11-07 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by tehz
like idiots on ****ty bikes? kewl d00d

You just hate my freedom.

Terrorist.

mugatu 07-11-07 09:16 PM

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2007...Hultin.htm#top

this guy seems happy with his
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2007...lvisHultin.htm


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