Case in point:

Take a regular road bike with both front and rear brakes. Attempt a maximum deceleration test with both front only and rear only brakes. Front brakes win every time. This is not refuteable.

This is why cars have larger rotors in the front wheels. Same with motocycles. It's a matter of physics - when stopping, forward weight transfer occurs.

To claim that one could stop better with rear brakes (let alone brakeless with a fixie) is foolish. Sure, you might be able to stop and be in control, but a brakeless fixed gear bicycle will never have the stopping power of a front brake equipped bike.

The fact that what you are saying is true doesn't make it relevant.

Maybe I should have quoted 90% of the responses to this thread where the topic of discussion was the (lack of) stopping power in brakeless fixed gear bikes (on platforms.)

BTW, I have no interest in the bike you might have or whether or not you run brakes. Natural selection will take its course, as far as I am concerned. I just want to set the misinformation straight.

if you are implying that you are fast

imagine how much faster you would be with a more efficient drive train

if not

uhh.....huh
?

Nowhere in this thread has anyone said that it's possible to stop faster on a brakeless bike than on a bike with a front brake. People are questioning whether it's safe to ride a fixed gear (especially a brakeless one) with platform pedals. An obvious statement about the relative stopping power of front and back brakes cut-and-pasted from another thread has nothing to do with whether platform pedals on a fixed gear are a good idea.

And where would this concern for safety stem from? The fact that you can't stop without brakes? That's my point.

A point that is totally off-topic.

Swing, and a miss.

First this must be destroyed, the reaction of the rear wheel is to lift under both circumstances. Once it has no more traction you'll go endo or skid either way. A lot of people feel there is better brake modulation(feel) on fixed gear because of a direct mechanical connection whereas brake calipers use friction not direct resistance for modulation. Oldies might suggest that training with platforms is a fantastic way to improve cadence. None of my friends who ride platforms with a front brake use it consistently anyways, so reaction time, correct and precise modulation of the front brake are not always on the table. Personally I swear by clipless because for work speed is the ultimate goal. Can you stop within 5-10 feet without eventually wearing out your rims with brakes?
Never used brakes on my work(track) bike

SAm

like idiots on ****ty bikes? kewl d00d

for real! I bet in a Boston you would be laughed away for that ****.. seriously that ****s so retarted we prolly won't want you ridden in our rides/races...

I have a friend who rides and races on bmx pedals he also works on the same bike 10hrs a day 5 days a week and he is fast...

I myself have ridden a few times on my clipless pedals with tennis shoes on

You just hate my freedom.

Terrorist.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2007...Hultin.htm#top

this guy seems happy with his
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2007...lvisHultin.htm