Open Pro vs. Aerohead
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There's a lot of talk about strength, rigidity, lateral crushing capacity, amount of eagle feathers, and number of speed holes on this forum, but I'm willing to bet that almost any rim of reasonable quality is good enough for the riding people around here do. Or anywhere for that matter. I have Aeroheads and they're great. They look nice, they stay nice, and they ride well. What more could I want? I've seen Open Pros and they look *****in'.
I do want a pair of those nice Ambrosio rims with the little gold plaque thing for my town ride, but again, pure aesthetics.
I do want a pair of those nice Ambrosio rims with the little gold plaque thing for my town ride, but again, pure aesthetics.
#5
Basically, my reservation for the OP's is the reviews they've been getting on Roadbikereview: people call them out for making a creaking noise after a few months, and some have cracked them between the eyelets. This is disconcerting.
My reservation about the Aeroheads and reason for considering the OP's over them is that in the past I've been told by bike shop employees that Velocity uses a weaker aluminum than Mavic in their rims.
I wonder how much truth is in each of these statements.
My reservation about the Aeroheads and reason for considering the OP's over them is that in the past I've been told by bike shop employees that Velocity uses a weaker aluminum than Mavic in their rims.
I wonder how much truth is in each of these statements.
#6
Originally Posted by andre nickatina
Basically, my reservation for the OP's is the reviews they've been getting on Roadbikereview: people call them out for making a creaking noise after a few months, and some have cracked them between the eyelets. This is disconcerting.
My reservation about the Aeroheads and reason for considering the OP's over them is that in the past I've been told by bike shop employees that Velocity uses a weaker aluminum than Mavic in their rims.
I wonder how much truth is in each of these statements.
My reservation about the Aeroheads and reason for considering the OP's over them is that in the past I've been told by bike shop employees that Velocity uses a weaker aluminum than Mavic in their rims.
I wonder how much truth is in each of these statements.
I thought mavic took care of the creaking eyelets years ago. It was definitely a problem in the early to mid 90s, but I haven't had a problem on any open pro I've ridden or build in the five years or so, so I assumed the problem was fixed.
As for the alloy, who's to say? It's a hoop so there is gonna be a compromise between lateral stiffness and resiliency. As long as it's made of a suitable alloy, I would think that profile has more to do with strenth than material alone.
#7
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Open pro for sure.
I've ridden both OP and aeroheads, as well as many other rims, and while they aren't as beefy as a deep section rim like a cxp33 or deep V, the OP is plenty strong and nice and light. the aeroheads are a bit lighter but did not hold up to street use for me, I don't like having to true wheels all the time. remember, build is important!
I've ridden both OP and aeroheads, as well as many other rims, and while they aren't as beefy as a deep section rim like a cxp33 or deep V, the OP is plenty strong and nice and light. the aeroheads are a bit lighter but did not hold up to street use for me, I don't like having to true wheels all the time. remember, build is important!
#8
Oh yeah I know. On my last set of wheels I bought them from benscycle.net who evidently aren't the greatest wheelbuilders. I brought them to the master builder in town to get them trued and when I returned he was like "I had to tighten every spoke on the wheel, who built these?".
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Originally Posted by Son of ronex
(hint ) a large number of tour riders train on open pros during off season .....
hope it helped.
hope it helped.
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Originally Posted by andre nickatina
Oh yeah I know. On my last set of wheels I bought them from benscycle.net who evidently aren't the greatest wheelbuilders. I brought them to the master builder in town to get them trued and when I returned he was like "I had to tighten every spoke on the wheel, who built these?".
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yep even weight
Originally Posted by weight weenies
Aerohead 1999 700C 28H. 405 g 435 g +7,41% clincher, averaged (434/436)
Mavic Open Pro 2000 700C, 28H. 425 g 425 g ±0,00% golden version for Cannondale Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2002 700C, 32H. 425 g 430 g +1,18% black Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2003 700C, 32H. 425 g 433 g +1,88% black Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2003 700C, 32H. 425 g 435 g +2,35% silver Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2004 700C, 32H. 425 g 429.5 g +1,06% black, averaged [429/430]
Mavic Open Pro 2000 700C, 28H. 425 g 425 g ±0,00% golden version for Cannondale Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2002 700C, 32H. 425 g 430 g +1,18% black Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2003 700C, 32H. 425 g 433 g +1,88% black Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2003 700C, 32H. 425 g 435 g +2,35% silver Correct or complete this entry
Mavic Open Pro 2004 700C, 32H. 425 g 429.5 g +1,06% black, averaged [429/430]
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and, as long as supplies last, IRO has Aeroheads in their Bargin(not bargain) Basement for $50 for two. 32 hole in silver.
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yeah, but that is no-where near current production. Not a great representation. I have two black velocity aeroheads waiting for me to build them into wheels. One came in at 417, the other, 423.
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Originally Posted by shogun17
yeah, but that is no-where near current production. Not a great representation. I have two black velocity aeroheads waiting for me to build them into wheels. One came in at 417, the other, 423.
The quality of production that resulted in that 7.41% difference is another issue too.
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Originally Posted by dutret
so they maybe a few grams lighter.
The quality of production that resulted in that 7.41% difference is another issue too.
The quality of production that resulted in that 7.41% difference is another issue too.
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Originally Posted by dutret
They are fine rims but a bit overpriced normally
$30 for a pair. Bargain.
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dutret hates everything. He's dutrimental to this topic 
But he is right. They are both adequate for most people. Aeroheads are slightly inferior in every way, but that's why they're cheaper. Open Pros are very standard for a good reason.

But he is right. They are both adequate for most people. Aeroheads are slightly inferior in every way, but that's why they're cheaper. Open Pros are very standard for a good reason.
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Oh, and about the weight of aeroheads, just picked up another set.
This is the front
and the rear was 411, but I built that up into a wheel (awesome wheel too. My correct spokes finally came (last one were too long) and my all black ano rim, red nipples, black spokes and DA7800 hub triplet build came out looking great. Nice and stealth)
This is the front

and the rear was 411, but I built that up into a wheel (awesome wheel too. My correct spokes finally came (last one were too long) and my all black ano rim, red nipples, black spokes and DA7800 hub triplet build came out looking great. Nice and stealth)




