... bonus points awarded for that one.

seriously

The people behind you would. I've trained with some national champion sprinters in various grades, and from a standing start on 2X wheels, you can see the hub move before the rim. radial would be a nightmare.

daaaaaamn

really want to tie n solder my wheels but that beekeeper wire is expensive. anyone have some i could use? dont wanna shell out the 60 for the whole spool.

bonechilling, what's with this whole ******bag attitude you have over half of the things i post? are you mad because someone from portland ****ed you over at some point in your life and now you hate every average joe from that city? i realized it was an impractical thing to do, the tieing/soldering, after about the 6th post in this thread, . this thread is now just a discussion over whether it actually adds more power transfer or placebo.

if you're just seeing me as some hipster with the sweet track build that rides twice a month and only for the purpose of showing my bike off at the coffee shop / "cool" bar / wherever else, you have it pretty bassackwards: i don't own a car, i hate the bus, i ride freewheels but don't enjoy them as much as fixed, so my track bike is how i get to everywhere i go. and sprinting is about my favorite thing to do on it, i wish i could make it to the track more often but work schedules / other obligations get in the way.

have a nice day bonechilling, i mean it!

+ = this thread

why do you hate the bus, because theres black people on it?

it's a pretty inefficient form of transportation when compared to biking, unless you're taking it long distances and don't have the energy to bike that far, such as the end of a busy day at work. after constant "instant gratification" from being able to get on my bike and go from point A to point B immediately, i find it annoying to have to wait at a bus stop, get on the bus, sit down and wait for the bus to get me where i need to go as it stops at every single stop on its course. black people on the bus is fine by me, if anything it makes the ride a little more entertaining.

oh so black people are like americas entertainers right

yeah, that's right, i'm a blatant racist just like everyone else here, in fact if you're black don't come to portland, you're not allowed.

glad thats settled

BACK ON TOPIC:

how does one go about tieing and soldering, what are the materials and what is the process?

My wheels were tied and soldered. They were built over 4 years ago took a constant beating on the street and, as of late, the track. They were built by a buddy who was the best wheel builder around here and there were still true but I dont know if they were any better than a regular wheel. I was recently involved in a hit and run with a VW Toureg and they were all still tied. The spokes either snapped, pulled through the hub, or pulled the nipple through rim but the wheel didnt taco or lose much shape.

here is what they looked like pre-wreck:

Just get some regular stranded 10 guage wire and cut off a 6 inch section. Strip off the insulation and un-wind the wire. Take one piece and wrap it around the spoke cross, heat it with the soldering iron and add solder. This is how I did it but I used a special wrapping technique that I found online and is hard to describe. Google it you'll find some instructions somewhere.

I wonder if 0.030" MIG welder wire will work.

Screw metal wire. Do it the modern way. Resin and carbon or kevlar strands.