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astrx 07-22-07 05:58 AM

inexpensive filet brazed frames?
 
I can't seem to find any anywhere. I'm just looking for something with a tight geometry and filet brazed instead of lugs... is that so much to ask for?

shogun17 07-22-07 06:39 AM

yes.

Hocam 07-22-07 06:41 AM

Brazed lugs = skilled labor

Fillet Brazed = even more skilled labor

SoreFeet 07-22-07 10:02 AM

You can get a Schwinn Varsity for about 10$ other than that you are SOL.

baxtefer 07-22-07 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by SoreFeet (Post 4904359)
You can get a Schwinn Varsity for about 10$ other than that you are SOL.

electroforged != fillet brazed

beatifik 07-22-07 10:31 AM

i got a filet brazed njs frame for $400. bwahahahaha.

Noestaencasa 07-22-07 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by astrx (Post 4903648)
I can't seem to find any anywhere. I'm just looking for something with a tight geometry and filet brazed instead of lugs... is that so much to ask for?

Define "inexpensive". What exactly is your ideal price and what size do you ride?

DW

Landgolier 07-22-07 11:27 AM

This thread has to be a joke...

el-cid 07-22-07 11:59 AM

You can get a custom fillet brazed frame from Doug Curtis at www.curtlo.com for a pretty reasonable price (at least compared to the other tig'd options out there).

Cynikal 07-22-07 12:07 PM

http://www.summersettbikes.com/

I went for a ride with this guy yesterday and his frames are very nice, but not inexpensive.

sniks 07-22-07 01:45 PM

PAKE+Bondo= cheap fillet brazed looking frame

astrx 07-22-07 04:36 PM

sorry if people think this is a joke. I'm looking for a new frame, and am not into the whole lugged look. if i was, i could easily pick up an old keirin frame for under 1000.

so yeah, i just want something that looks sort of plain, hence the filet brazing. I want something with geometry slightly tighter than my pista. it doesnt seem like it should be so much to ask for.

Cynikal 07-22-07 05:19 PM

You can find an inexpensive tig'd steel frames. The Fuji track comes to mind (because one is in my garage).

yellowjeep 07-22-07 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by el-cid (Post 4904834)
You can get a custom fillet brazed frame from Doug Curtis at www.curtlo.com for a pretty reasonable price (at least compared to the other tig'd options out there).

+1 these frames look super nice

Boss Moniker 07-22-07 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by astrx (Post 4905911)
sorry if people think this is a joke. I'm looking for a new frame, and am not into the whole lugged look. if i was, i could easily pick up an old keirin frame for under 1000.

so yeah, i just want something that looks sort of plain, hence the filet brazing. I want something with geometry slightly tighter than my pista. it doesnt seem like it should be so much to ask for.

Have you seen the trademark Cannondale weld? They TIG (or MIG, I don't know the difference) aluminum together like any other AL frame manufacturer today, but they sand down the weld by hand so the transitions look really smooth. More material is used in welding than brazing, so the "radius" between the tubes is larger, but it still looks plain.

They produce the "Capo" fixed gear bike, which I've been recommending to everyone because I got it.. like most entry-levels, the componentry is junk, but the frameset is quite nice and lightweight, replete with carbon fork.

Might not be what you're looking for, but it's worth a look.

Noestaencasa 07-23-07 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by astrx (Post 4905911)
sorry if people think this is a joke. I'm looking for a new frame, and am not into the whole lugged look. if i was, i could easily pick up an old keirin frame for under 1000.

so yeah, i just want something that looks sort of plain, hence the filet brazing. I want something with geometry slightly tighter than my pista. it doesnt seem like it should be so much to ask for.

Still waiting for an answer to my above question on your price and size.

DW

doomkin 07-23-07 09:35 AM

x2 on the bondo.

goldenskeletons 07-23-07 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by beatifik (Post 4904453)
i got a filet brazed njs frame for $400. bwahahahaha.

same here, but not quiiiiite $400. although mine i got mine in absolutely pristine condition. yours wouldn't happen to be made by shi.tamori, would it? he's the only builder i know of doing filet brazed njs frames although i can only assume there's plenty of others.

oh, and pictures! or bring your bike the the summer slam series!

fender1 07-23-07 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by baxtefer (Post 4904362)
electroforged != fillet brazed

Above Not True. Read.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/schwinn-braze.html

Geometry is not what the OP is looking for but I just bough this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1271&rd=1&rd=1

baxtefer 07-23-07 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by fender1 (Post 4911293)

uhhh, what?
show me where on that page where it says that a Varsity is fillet brazed. Varsities, continentals etc were electroforged.

(yeahyeah, there is a single silver-brazed, lugged joint on a Varsity)

fender1 07-23-07 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by baxtefer (Post 4911490)
uhhh, what?
show me where on that page where it says that a Varsity is fillet brazed. Varsities, continentals etc were electroforged.

(yeahyeah, there is a single silver-brazed, lugged joint on a Varsity)

I must be missing something. I thought your orignal post was equating fillet brazed to electro forged. Reason for my posting of the link.

baxtefer 07-23-07 02:16 PM

!= means does not equal
== means equals

(Sorry, too much C++ recently)

redtires 07-23-07 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by astrx (Post 4903648)
I can't seem to find any anywhere. I'm just looking for something with a tight geometry and filet brazed instead of lugs... is that so much to ask for?

Well, since you don't seem to be getting too many actual answers ( :rolleyes: ) I looked at those Curtlo frames, and that's a pretty sweet price for a custom bike. How much were you looking to spend? Below 1k? Also, I know it's frustrating sometimes, but have you checked out ebay or craigslist thoroughly? I would add one thing, being someone who specialized in making fillet brazed frames (about a decade ago!) not too many people do them anymore short of full custom. Man, I really should get myself some tanks and build a jig...I think I could build some bikes for some people here!!!!!

exfreewheeler 07-23-07 02:41 PM

Business Cycles has a ...

LANDSHARK - 54 cm (center to top) fillet-brazed Dedacciai steel frame and fork (1" threadless). Red metallic. Never assembled. - $995.00

This is from their site...

http://www.businesscycles.com/compspec.htm

akatsuki 07-23-07 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Boss Moniker (Post 4907354)
Have you seen the trademark Cannondale weld? They TIG (or MIG, I don't know the difference) aluminum together like any other AL frame manufacturer today, but they sand down the weld by hand so the transitions look really smooth. More material is used in welding than brazing, so the "radius" between the tubes is larger, but it still looks plain.

They produce the "Capo" fixed gear bike, which I've been recommending to everyone because I got it.. like most entry-levels, the componentry is junk, but the frameset is quite nice and lightweight, replete with carbon fork.

Might not be what you're looking for, but it's worth a look.

I think the geometry is more roadlike on the Capo if I recall correctly, and then you might just go for the Gunnar Street Dog if you want steel.

Then again a price limit would be helpful.


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