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ryanlovesyou 07-24-07 01:23 PM

lets just ride bikes, eh?

piwonka 07-24-07 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by kludge (Post 4920462)
so whats the difference between this guy drilling his fork to make a bike that is NOT a museum piece and will NOT be raced again and someone who gets an njs goodie and puts a bunch of matching bullcrap on it?

ah, its not "authentic" enough.

no, all the stupid parts can easily come off and the period correct/classic looking/historic/correct parts can be put back on. that drilling can't really be reversed...it's a pretty much permanent modification...

DosRenshos 07-24-07 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by kludge (Post 4920462)
so whats the difference between this guy drilling his fork to make a bike that is NOT a museum piece and will NOT be raced again and someone who gets an njs goodie and puts a bunch of matching bullcrap on it?

ah, its not "authentic" enough.

See, thats the problem. This bike should be a museum piece. It's really that rare.

helloamerican 07-24-07 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8 (Post 4919124)
Ermmm... I probably can't remember any of my highschool physics, but don't forget that there is a friction component between the braked wheel and the ground that actually stops the bike. What stops the bike is the friction between the tire and the ground. The brake acts to slow the wheel which interacts with the ground/pavement. If you think of braking on ice, even though the wheel is stopped, the bike keeps going... and going... and going...

Anyway, helloamerican, I'm glad you like your bike. You might try these guys for repro stickers if you're unable to find an original. http://www.velographicdecals.com/

Thanks for the great link, i'm not sure im painting it yet. as it is now im working with flexible colors so if it does get painted it'll look great but still looks pretty awesome with the green. I'm trying to collect lots of gold nitto parts off yahoo.


Originally Posted by DosRenshos (Post 4923292)
See, thats the problem. This bike should be a museum piece. It's really that rare.

burden burden. i wish i had known before hand. and if you guys could see the paint, its really not as much a museum peice compared to sashae's. i can tell this bike has been ridden, a lot, over its life and i'm pretty sure it's previous owners didnt know what it was either. I actually peeled a rat fink sticker off it when we bought it hah. either way- it's going to be ridden, thats why it was drilled. (not to be snappy)

el twe 07-24-07 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8 (Post 4919124)
You might try these guys for repro stickers if you're unable to find an original. http://www.velographicdecals.com/

DON'T.

There's a big thread in Classic & Vintage about how this guy (forum member mswantak) is ripping people off and being a total flake. Check here for new sources: http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=324538.

gbarchus 07-25-07 08:59 AM

Here's my Makino-made 3Rensho in the 90s. I have considered drilling it for a front brake but, right now, it has a temporary, bolt-on rear brake. Basically, it's to avoid any tickets and emergency-use-only. So far I haven't used it.

Can't wait to see photos of your bike!

Gale

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...us/3Rensho.jpg

helloamerican 07-25-07 08:08 PM

beautiful bike- photo's of mine in frame form are on the first page on the OP it should be built up by next week though. i bought gold rimmed deep v's laced to dura ace hubs.. i'm trying to decide wether or not to get a gold sugino 75 as well as nitto stem/seatpost/bullhorns. i don't want it looking too 'blinged out' but the gold deep v's look gorgeous against the dark green.

cavit8 07-25-07 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by el twe (Post 4923734)
DON'T.

There's a big thread in Classic & Vintage about how this guy (forum member mswantak) is ripping people off and being a total flake. Check here for new sources: http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=324538.

Wow, that's good to know, thanks for the tip. It's officially out of my bookmarks.

moki 07-25-07 11:47 PM

gbarchus, please tell me that bike has been built and is being ridden already.

As for museum pieces, riding becomes way less fun when you worry about every little stone chip, lockup, and dropped wrench. I traded away the most gorgeous track bike I've ever seen in the flesh because I stressed about it too much.

I've seen way too many dope frames and bikes wasting away on the walls and in the basements of old racers to care much about historic value. If Fausto Coppi rode it in the Giro dItalia, then it counts. If some Cat2 racer splurged on a bike 30 years ago, has since given up racing or moved on to carbon fibre Treks, the old bike belongs on the road, preferably in the hands of someone who pumps their tires and lubes their chain.

jdms mvp 07-26-07 07:41 AM

:(

gbarchus 07-26-07 08:56 AM

moki,

Here it is! I just got some chrome-moly track bars today. I'm trying to decide what length Nitto stem to get. With the bullhorns, I feel in the right position. I know the track bars with the Nitto Jaguar stem are going to put my hands down near the front tire.

I agree with you. My bike didn't see much racing from the condition it's in and it probably won't see anymore. But I can REALLY appreciate its racing heritage and absolutely LOVE riding it on the street.

Gale

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...rchus/side.jpg

Sakae Custom 07-26-07 09:39 AM

Bikes, get chipped, they get scratched, people shouldn't stress about that especially Keirin frames, which were basically made to get destroyed. I doubt this guy will kill himself with a brake. Hell i know many people riding drilled track forks who aren't dead.

Rikardi151 07-26-07 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by gbarchus (Post 4935222)
moki,

Here it is! I just got some chrome-moly track bars today. I'm trying to decide what length Nitto stem to get. With the bullhorns, I feel in the right position. I know the track bars with the Nitto Jaguar stem are going to put my hands down near the front tire.

I agree with you. My bike didn't see much racing from the condition it's in and it probably won't see anymore. But I can REALLY appreciate its racing heritage and absolutely LOVE riding it on the street.

Gale

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...rchus/side.jpg

You DID put in that fifth chainring bolt before riding it right?

helloamerican 07-26-07 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Rikardi151 (Post 4935636)
You DID put in that fifth chainring bolt before riding it right?

wait, i thought chainrings were like car wheels, you can ride with 2 bolts right?

fetch 07-26-07 01:22 PM

nycbikesnob fame

fix: 07-26-07 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Tadashi (Post 4919835)
If you're not going to use it on velodrome, then I guess it's good that you drilled it. I have a clamp, so I can take it off when I'm on the track.

are you insinuating that you cant ride a bike with a brake hole on the track?

el twe 07-26-07 02:16 PM

I think he's insinuating that it's harder to remove a brake set-up when it's a standard, non-Keirin brake (with removable lever).

gbarchus 07-26-07 06:43 PM

Rikardi151,

Well.... soon after.

Finally found ONE for 250 yen. But, it's a Sugino, not a DA. :rolleyes:

Gale:

pitboss 07-26-07 08:26 PM

re: rideable bike frame

Originally Posted by sashae (Post 4915953)
mine is hanging on the wall.

I fear that within 10 years, you will be buying and selling "vintage" Izumi track chain boxes on eBay.

andre nickatina 07-26-07 09:09 PM

In thirty years, Pista Concepts will be considered "vintage" and 70's Italian track frames will be "ancient".

helloamerican 07-26-07 09:31 PM

i hope we have hoverbikes in thirty years.


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