I have a pair of Suntour Superbe tubular wheels laced to Sun Mistral rims with Suntour 15t cog and lockring in great condition (used for two seasons on the track). I am in talks to trade for a HF phil wood dble fixed laced to open pros with about 300-400 miles on it. We want to be fair about the trade so is one worth more than the other and if so, what amount should be added to the difference? I don't plan on riding on the track enough to justify having them so I'd rather have a pair of wheels i actually use instead of just sitting and looking pretty.

*what's the high/low value of my wheels?

lol, after seeing this yesteday...

i <3 suntours, but the phils are worth more. the suntour/sun mistral wheelset used to come stock on the cannondale track bikes. id give him the suntours +75/100

i didn't know suntour was total crap, glad i saw that pic.

i think thats still undetermined.

suntour is not total crap, they're great hubs. ill bet that the above pic is user error...

It is entirely possible that the builder way over tensioned them and those cracks in the picture are a result of an accident but the report of cracking on the non-drive side rear is worrisome as the tension would have to be much much lower there and there was no report of serious trauma.

Given that the superbe pro rings are absolute **** and made with an incredibly weak alloy I wouldn't be suprised if the hubs are too.

phils by about 100