(While the trade is on the line I was thinking if it doesn't go through I'll build a wheelset (phil hubs) with whatever I can get for the Suntours) *I also searched but really couldn't find a comparison of the two to each other.

What I want to know is should I go for the lighter but maybe not best for me wheel or a lil heavier but better suited for me. I say this cuz I cracked a Open Pro rear once on a huge pot hole but today hit one on the deep V and it didn't budge so i figure the larger profile of the CXP may replicate this feat. I weight 185 and do alot of curbing and hard roughing, so I want as light but as durable as possible. Which is best? I know there is the all popular OP but I feel alot of that comes from lighter weight riders and I can't relate. I also heave alot in my bag alot so theres more weight. but then i say to myself that I may cancel out any weight savings with things in my bag so why does it matter. also 32 or 36? if i do a 36 OP would that equal a 32 CXP in durability? (of course assuming it was built very well) thanks to anyone for the help.

In my opinion, CXP33s aren't much stronger than Open Pros. I had 2 pairs of CXP33s, and cracked both rears. I kept the fronts and replaced the rears with DT RR1.2s.

I you wanna keep riding like you do, I recommend sticking to 30mm deep rims, at least on the rear. The DTs look heaps cooler than the Velocities

really? that's surprising

Nice BMC.

thanks, but I sold it

It was a nice bike, but a little flexy, so i traded it for this Scapin S2

I've never been that impressed with mavic rims but open pros are the cocks kadoodle over in the roadie forum.

I've heard that the Streetfire is one stiff bike, for an entry level bike.

HA Mavic still trade on the reputation they attained when they made great rims in "the old days".

I found mine very flexy, mostly in the front. I changed the fork 4 times to try to stiffen it up. Mine was a size L, with a 56.5cm effective top-tube, so maybe the smaller sizes are stiffer.

I think half of that is a reaction to all the crazy boutique wheels--- that you can build a lighter, stiffer wheelset at a fraction of the price using "standard parts."