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eddiebrannan 10-01-07 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by deathhare (Post 5365165)
Learn to trackstand correctly.

it's already been said, deathhare. or do you think it just sounds better coming from you?

d_nast 10-01-07 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by 666pack (Post 5366967)
i suggest the owner of the second bike pictured grows like a foot or two and gets a longer top tube.

hey all. i'm the owner of that bike. i'm 6'2", how tall are you 666pack? :p. the TT is 53.5/54ish. its a combo of the rake and headtube angle in addition to the top tube that give it overlap. but even so, the overlap is about the same as the picture above mine. here is a pic better depicting my bike's overlap:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/DSC00999.jpg

acoldspoon 10-01-07 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by d_nast (Post 5370694)
hey all. i'm the owner of that bike. i'm 6'2", how tall are you 666pack? :p. the TT is 53.5/54ish. its a combo of the rake and headtube angle in addition to the top tube that give it overlap. but even so, the overlap is about the same as the picture above mine. here is a pic better depicting my bike's overlap:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/DSC00999.jpg

That is a lot of overlap, even for me, and I tend to like some overlap. What size toeclips are those?

piwonka 10-01-07 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by d_nast (Post 5370694)
hey all. i'm the owner of that bike. i'm 6'2", how tall are you 666pack? :p. the TT is 53.5/54ish. its a combo of the rake and headtube angle in addition to the top tube that give it overlap. but even so, the overlap is about the same as the picture above mine. here is a pic better depicting my bike's overlap:

your bike is pretty awesome.
what are the angles and rake?
also how tall is the frame? it looks like 57 or 58cm on the seat tube...and only a 54cm TT...nuts.

edit: oh nevermind. i guess it's probably 55 or 56 on the seat tube.

d_nast 10-01-07 07:19 PM

the toe clips are size large. and the seat tube is actually 57 ctc. the rake, i would def say under 30mm, 25mm?, i don't really have the tools to measure that or the angles though.

Igneous Faction 10-01-07 07:25 PM

Did you buy that from Paterek? I didn't think he made frames anymore. At least that's what it says in my bicycle building manual.

Either way, a very cool bike!

Regarding the overlap, that's not the end of the world. The only time I'd be worried about overlap is if I was going pretty fast. And when are you ever going to be going very fast and have the wheel turned that much?

d_nast 10-01-07 07:44 PM

i didn't buy it straight from him, at least twice removed. The former owner didn't but it custom but maybe the previous one. It's from the early mid 80s according to Tim Paterek when I asked him. His records got erased when his computer crashed so he could only guess.

in regards to overlap and going fast, i think it is actually more to worry about when going slow. if you are going fast one wouldn't be able to turn as sharp as one would going slow and hit their pedals (not to say you couldn't jerk your handle bars quickly and prove me otherwise). Which is very likely why steeper angles are found on track bikes where one is going fast.

cc700 10-01-07 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by parkerlewis (Post 5365484)
PS cranks are going to make ****-all difference, to anyone who suggested that. Even going from a 175mm superbe pro to a 165mm (min and max length I think), you are going to take off 1cm. Clips alone can do much more, and cost 10 bucks, but I guess wont be the ideal size after you change :(

uhh, maybe for track cranks... road touring cranks come in 180 and higher and bmx cranks come in 150 and lower, kids cranks are like 140.


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