My toilet is CSA approved if that helps

http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/f.../toilets_4.jpg

Dude I stripped the lockring on my toilet and it blew to pieces. And the seat is flexy like a...flexy thing.

I only buy CSA approved now.

Yes suntour and sugino made lockrings, as did campagnolo. Their NJS lines are all now defunct.

The stuff I listed above is gear that you can buy new, now from the companies.

Suzue Pro Max NJS hubs are also gone, because Suzue closed shop.

Ps My toilet is JIS approved. CSA is for hipster toilet ******s. JIS is for people who actually use toilets for what they were made for first and foremost.Too many guys in the US (especially) are going around thinking they are the ****, wearing CSA t shirts and whatever else. I figure the Japanese have been using toilets for longer, and in weirder positions, so they should know a thing or two by now......just my 2 cents.

Superbe Pro rings are absolute ****. Poorly cut and made with a super soft alloy that will deform the first time you stand up and put pressure on them.

There have been threads about the hubs being crappy too but hub failure could always be a freak accident unlike rapid wear.

1. japan is much cooler then early 20th century america.
2. finding pre-wwII track bikes and parts is a lot harder than finding NJS ones.
3. Hipsters don't really have track racers as idols except in a very abstract way. I doubt most could tell you the name of a single current japanese keirin racer(to be fair neither could I).

I can't believe I'm contributing to your "joke" but you should have kept it on subject by using Nacho Jalapeno Salsa

i think parkerlewis was talking about currently made NJS parts.

if NJS is so awesome then why do i see all them crazy japanese guys bikes with old school campy parts on them? ;)
NJS is just a stamp and it matters none to anyone unless you were born in japan and actually race for a living...

uhhhhh did you read the OP?

4. Hipsters secretly like anime

I think that just goes back to orientalism and the japan is cool factor.

Remember that vuelta a andalucia anime thread. Although it was more enjoyable than most movies about road racing.

Maybe now that track bikes are getting hip in japan there will be some unbelievably bad one about keirin racing.

Another thing that may be obvious to some, but not to the uninitiated, is that NJS has essentially frozen the technology of keirin bikes. An fully NJS bike is technologically equivalent to a track bike from several decades ago and will require parts that, taken out of the keirin racing context, are obsolete, such as unsealed bearings, 36 spoke wheels, 1" threaded headsets, steel handlebars, negative rise quill stems, lugged steel frames, 1/8" chains, toe-clips and straps, etc. People may prefer such things for aesthetic reasons, but they are functionally surpassed by newer technologies that are used outside of Japanese keirin.

I'm my opinion, someone interested in the NJS aesthetic would be better off with a NJS non-NJS hybrid...get a NJS frame, and a few other NJS parts, like cranks. stem, and handlebars. Thats enough to give the bike a trendy NJS "flavor". But for wheels, pedals, saddle, tires, etc. go with something more modern and more practical. To me, NJS frames with a creative mix of NJS and non-NJS parts are the best looking. Going fully NJS is impractical, and frankly, not very creative.

you jerk, probably 95% of the posts in this thread don't address the original post.

seems like the avg on ebay for Keirin frames are about $500-700 depending on the name (name is everything it seems). Sometimes you can get a really good price. I don't see what the rave is, you get a great looking frame with pretty sparkles but I don't know if it is better than dura-ace or record. I have no experience with one but if you like it go for it. seems to me like folks in the US are getting a good profit since they can get it cheaper there since its much more available.

piwonka - lol, i understand, he has a habit of presenting himself that way

dutret's posts always remind me of:

Walter Sobchak: Am I wrong?
The Dude: No you're not wrong.
Walter Sobchak: Am I wrong?
The Dude: You're not wrong Walter. You're just an *******.
Walter Sobchak: All right then.

yeah, true dat. nice old Campy stuff is waaay more expensive here. although Campy+NJS= yahooauction success

Naw, it'll be like initial d, but with track bikes, riding through the city doin sweet skids.

Main character can ride like a 1970's Colnago or something with ancient wheels that his dad secretly updates because he used to be a pro keirin racer or something.

Mean character with Carbon Fiber Anchor bike: "RAAAR YOU'LL NEVER DO BAR SPINS AS COOL AS ME"

Main Character: "NO, I MUST DO THE BACKWARDS CIRCLE BAR SPINS THE BEST I CAN!!"

*cue eurobeat soundtrack*

the joke was that

is demonstrably false, the OP is an example of this. Whether people should care is a different story though I think the restrictions could be expanded to "actually plan to race in an njs regulated league."

LMAO :D

lol, yeah. i actually could say that probably 95% of the posts in ANY thread in this subforum don't address the original post....and it would be true. but that's what makes it so interesting in here.

even though he is who he is, you gota love Dutret. Funny guy he is (we are talking like he can't read what we are typing lol)

i like dutret. he's always right and his posts are fun to read.

definitely agree... who wants to ride a kashimax saddle with low profile tubulars on the street?

Which is exactly why I thought he was trolling, and started all of this hoopla.

Edit - The post I was replying to must have been deleted! Weird.

im not reading 3 pages of this but just in case anyone didnt say it
njs stuff says njs
not all njs stuff is worth the price
a lot is.
buying njs stuff to have 'an njs bike' to impress your friends is lame.

You just bumped a 5 day old thread to tell us that you didn't read the entire thread? What an awesome way to up your post count.