Sugino 75 or Zen Messenger
10-10-07 | 08:57 AM
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Bikes: 1972 Paramount Track, 1972 Paramount P13 Road, 1972 Paramount Tandem, 1986 Paramount Road, Merckx MXL, Gunnar Cross Hairs, Samson Illusion NJS, KHS Aero Track, Titus Racer X 29er, Tom Palermo Custom Touring
One will give you a 42mm chainline (75) and one wont (Messenger, well unless you get a 107mm BB then space it 3mm back on the inside)
10-10-07 | 09:38 AM
#6
One lets you argue whether it's taper is JIS or ISO, the other you don't care.
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This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.
This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.
10-10-07 | 02:28 PM
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This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.
This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.
10-10-07 | 02:33 PM
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10-11-07 | 07:37 AM
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Don't smoke, Mike.
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Meh, I'm picking up a Zen Messenger ring (42T, 144bcd) because other than Salsa it was the only option I could find for my ****ed-up ss cyclocross project. I'm going to be running track cranks but wanted a really small ring. I don't know if that's the situation w/ anyone else. I've run 75s in the past and the bb is gorgeous but don't forget the upkeep. That thing isn't exactly sealed well (not that it was designed to be, or should be).
10-11-07 | 07:46 AM
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Meh, I'm picking up a Zen Messenger ring (42T, 144bcd) because other than Salsa it was the only option I could find for my ****ed-up ss cyclocross project. I'm going to be running track cranks but wanted a really small ring. I don't know if that's the situation w/ anyone else. I've run 75s in the past and the bb is gorgeous but don't forget the upkeep. That thing isn't exactly sealed well (not that it was designed to be, or should be).
10-11-07 | 07:52 AM
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Don't smoke, Mike.
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Yep, wanted to run external bearing/hollow axle fg/ss-specific cranks for the ss build. That doesn't leave many options. The SRAM Omnium cranks will work quite well though and now that I've managed to source rings that will work I can use an 18T cog which puts me smack dab in the middle of the range in the back I'd like to run.
