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sfcrossrider 03-11-08 10:51 PM

I almost bought a modern Eames shell rocker last weekend... red.

Nblinko10 03-11-08 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by sfcrossrider (Post 6326860)
I almost bought a modern Eames shell rocker last weekend... red.

Hey, if you buy one I'd look into the versions that Modernica makes as well as herman miller. They are truer to the original. they still make them in fibreglass in a bazillion colors. We have a black RAR (eames rocker) at the gallery from Herman Miller and it is cool too...but plastic instead of fiberglass

~Stuart~ 03-11-08 11:24 PM

worst off topic thread EVER.



Fail, with a capital F

willypilgrim 03-11-08 11:39 PM

it isn't an off topic thread.

it's been derailed, but if you have a problem with it's derailment into (primarily) herman miller works, you have no taste plz leave thnks.

sfcrossrider 03-11-08 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by ~Stuart~ (Post 6327010)
worst off topic thread EVER.



Fail, with a capital F

I can think of another word that starts with an F... furniture. :beer:

Nblinko10 03-12-08 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by sfcrossrider (Post 6327096)
I can think of another word that starts with an F... furniture. :beer:

Nice zing "sfcrossrider". I actually laughed out loud on that one.

I don't really feel that bad that this thread has been so derailed. I mean...the bike for which this thread is supposed to be about has been mispelled in the thread title. Someone should start another thread for this bike and call it "2008 Jamis Sonik". Until then it is the 08 Jamis Sonic/Mid-Century Modern Furniture thread

sfcrossrider 03-12-08 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Nblinko10 (Post 6327329)
Nice zing "sfcrossrider". I actually laughed out loud on that one.

I don't really feel that bad that this thread has been so derailed. I mean...the bike for which this thread is supposed to be about has been mispelled in the thread title. Someone should start another thread for this bike and call it "2008 Jamis Sonik". Until then it is the 08 Jamis Sonic/Mid-Century Modern Furniture thread

Thanks man. I do love your bike. There is a chance I'll be racing one this year (very slim), but still a chance.

Nblinko10 03-12-08 01:58 PM

I appreciate it! I hope you are able to get one so you can race it too. Now I just need to get my ass down to Colorado Springs and get on the velodrome

Nblinko10 03-28-08 12:04 AM

New saddle and stem...still need to chop the steerer tube down as well as put my clipless pedals on

http://a10.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/...03f1d40c59.jpg

http://a450.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...e5a17e58a9.jpg

chriskitch 04-05-08 11:48 AM

Hey Nblinko10, I love your bike and your furniture...your seatpost seems to be the one that Jamis specs on their triathalon bikes rather than the one that they picture in their catalog here
Was this a change you made or it what Jamis shipped you?
BTW, would you mind shooting a couple of closeups of the omnium cranks?...I'm thinking of getting a set and I'd like to see what the black ones look like close up...
Jamis certainly has come a long way in the style department over the last couple of years...
TANX

Nblinko10 04-06-08 01:12 PM

Hey,

Thanks! I'll try to take some shots of the omniums for you. The upgrades i did were:

Thomson x2 17 degree stem
Selle Italia SLR XP saddle
Mavic Ellipse wheelset
and i put different tubes and tires on just so i could ride it a little before i bring it to the track where I'll pu the other tubes/tires back on which were RIDICULOUS thin and soft. My LBS told me the tires on it would probably only last 500 miles on a WOOD track...crazy.
I have some Look Keos I'm going to put on eventually too

As for the seat post I was kind of dissapointed. I still need to see if my shop will try and replace it with the correct one as I will never use the second position on it.

but yeah, the American classic wheelset got sold and the selle san marco saddle (which as absolute garbage) is going to get sold...or given

NitroPye 04-06-08 02:03 PM

Your gallery needs more mall purchased wall mounted katanas.

Sidenote: I'm eyeing up one of the Jamis cross bikes. They make some stellar bikes.

Straws 04-06-08 02:25 PM

I was just looking at this bike last night. Looks like an actual quality build for the price.

JYPC 05-09-08 04:37 PM

I'm glad I saw this post, because I am greatly interested in getting a Sonik. I noticed the tiny down tube, and the crappy stem and seat, but overall I'm glad to see that the bike seems worth the money. How many miles have you put on it now? I'm wondering about durability.

dobber 05-09-08 07:57 PM


Needs flat bars. And a top tube protector.

Nblinko10 05-12-08 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by dobber (Post 6668413)
Needs flat bars. And a top tube protector.


top tube protectors and flat bars are for hipster dufus bikes. This is a track bike.

Nblinko10 05-12-08 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by JYPC (Post 6667611)
I'm glad I saw this post, because I am greatly interested in getting a Sonik. I noticed the tiny down tube, and the crappy stem and seat, but overall I'm glad to see that the bike seems worth the money. How many miles have you put on it now? I'm wondering about durability.



tiny down tube? what do you mean? its huge...albeit thin as f**k.

the durability of this bike is fantastic if it is used properly. this is a track bike. it was designed to be used on a track, which is very smooth. It is not meant to take bumps in the roads all day. the frame will fatigue and/or crack at the welds. It is a VERY light frame. when i tap the downtube with my fingernail it sounds ridiculously thin. The diamond shape of the tubing is how it gets its strength and marginal aerodynamics. also, the toe overlap is considerable as it is not meant to do sharp turns. the long and the short: this is not meant to be ridden on city streets with an aerospoke front wheel with a crappy formula/deep v rear, top tube protector, and flat bars with a brooks saddle. It is meant for an indoor wood track or an outdoor track if it isn't windy.

JYPC 05-12-08 09:53 PM

In regards to the tiny down tube, I was referring to the diamond shape tubing and where the tubes are welded. It is a thick tubing vertically, but side to side it's not as durable. I wonder sometimes about carbon and aluminum tubing when it comes to side pressure and fatigue due to stress on such a thin side to side tubing. I understand the aerodynamic aspect of it, but durability after a wreck verses a steel frame.

I guess what I'm getting at is wrecks happen, and if I were to wreck on my steel frame I know I'll just dent a tubing, or break a wheel and spokes. Where as if I wreck on a super light aluminum or carbon frame that might be it for the frame. Now I don't plan on wrecking, and I'm very maneuverable, but it's just like commuting, I worry about the cars around me over my own mistaking actions; as goes for the other riders.

Straight bars are wicked. Top tube protectors do make sense in every aspect of bicycling towards every bicycle where handlebars have a chance to scratch and/or dent the tubing. Once again though, straight bars are wicked. Elastic membranes. Drawn out clichés into freeze-frame, a monkey display. Please, read into this paragraphs dissented misinterpretation.

powerband 05-12-08 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Nblinko10 (Post 6300121)
Its my work. I am the gallery director for a modern design gallery in Denver, CO. www.zmodern.com


...I wish it was my house

Very cool workplace. My wife and I live in an Eichler home and we will tear up our carpet to expose the original cement flooring, over which we'll have a cement overlay with dye patterns in it. We'll have to check out the zmodern website.

The Sonik is a nice bike. I just came back from the velodrome tonight after my first session at track riding. I think I am hooked and will be looking into a track bike. The Jamis Sonik is something I will consider.

thequickfix 05-13-08 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by Nblinko10
this is a track bike. it was designed to be used on a track, which is very smooth. It is not meant to take bumps in the roads all day.

Where in Denver are you riding on a track? Is there a velodrome that I'm not aware of?

Soil_Sampler 05-13-08 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by thequickfix (Post 6684625)
Where in Denver are you riding on a track? Is there a velodrome that I'm not aware of?

unless he built his own...

http://www.fixedgearfever.com/module...op=list&cid=us

thequickfix 05-13-08 01:56 AM

Thanks.
I was hoping for one within riding distance.

Nblinko10 05-14-08 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler (Post 6684646)


You're right. There is no track in Denver. Congratulations on the amazing detective work. There is however a velodrome an hour and 20 minutes away in Colorado Springs minutes from my Father's house.

You might also be interested to know that an indoor wooden track is currently being built in Denver @ the Broomfield Events Center which is scheduled to open in September of '08.

Nblinko10 05-14-08 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by JYPC (Post 6684005)
In regards to the tiny down tube, I was referring to the diamond shape tubing and where the tubes are welded. It is a thick tubing vertically, but side to side it's not as durable. I wonder sometimes about carbon and aluminum tubing when it comes to side pressure and fatigue due to stress on such a thin side to side tubing. I understand the aerodynamic aspect of it, but durability after a wreck verses a steel frame.

I guess what I'm getting at is wrecks happen, and if I were to wreck on my steel frame I know I'll just dent a tubing, or break a wheel and spokes. Where as if I wreck on a super light aluminum or carbon frame that might be it for the frame. Now I don't plan on wrecking, and I'm very maneuverable, but it's just like commuting, I worry about the cars around me over my own mistaking actions; as goes for the other riders.

Straight bars are wicked. Top tube protectors do make sense in every aspect of bicycling towards every bicycle where handlebars have a chance to scratch and/or dent the tubing. Once again though, straight bars are wicked. Elastic membranes. Drawn out clichés into freeze-frame, a monkey display. Please, read into this paragraphs dissented misinterpretation.

The tubing is pretty thick vertically and actually horizontally it isn't thin. the walls of the downtube are thin but the shape of the tubing is quite substantial. you are right though. this frame doesn't have too much room for crashes.

as for the top tube protectors i don't mean to seem so "anti-top tube protectors" but the fact is....they won't do much in a crash. They do however protect your frame from getting scratches when you are locking it to a pole/bike rack/whatever....and they do have hipster style points. but seriously, a top tube protector's thin foam protection isn't going to do **** when you crash at 20-40 miles an hour....especially if you're still clipped in and your body weight is added to the mix...

flat bars are fine. I get it for city riding i guess. I prefer drops though for climbing. What I dont' understand is when people have flat bars that are cut shorter. Their logic is that it makes their riding profile thinner and thus less likely to swipe cars or something. I think its more of a macho "hey look at me and how I made my bike less efficient at steering on purpose! aren't I dangerous and messengery"

here's an example of the lamest thing ever:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/t...ke_art_022.jpg

where they use short riser bars with oury grips. seriously? Seriously? I can't wait to see a fixed gear someday with bmx bars.

but flats are fine. I know a guy who just bought a brooklyn machine works gangsta and put flat bars on them with ergo grips and it steers great and yeah...whatever



also...i have no idea what this means:

"Elastic membranes. Drawn out clichés into freeze-frame, a monkey display. Please, read into this paragraphs dissented misinterpretation."

deadforkinglast 05-14-08 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Nblinko10 (Post 6694359)
here's an example of the lamest thing ever:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/t...ke_art_022.jpg

I've definitely seen lamer. Those risers actually like kind of functional. The really bad ones are the ones where the bars protrude from the stem for exactly the length of an Oury grip or smaller. I don't understand how that can possibly be comfortable, especially for climbing or riding brakeless. I have no real beef with flat bars and risers, as long as they're sufficiently wide for climbing, sprinting and all the other **** that we do on bikes.


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