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Gluestick 11-17-07 05:43 PM

Gear Ratio
 
In the process of taking apart my old Shimano to convert it to a fixed gear bike, I noticed that the chainring that is attached to the crankarm and pedal has 52 teeth. Is this going to be a problem for me at all? I live in Massachusetts, in a hilly area. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks.

bbattle 11-17-07 06:00 PM

Get a 20 tooth cog for the rear.

raster 11-17-07 06:01 PM

What kinda wonky crank is this?

time bandit 11-17-07 06:07 PM

lots of 70s/80s bikes had the big ring pressed on to the crankarm. they suck. I've had bad experiences using one, Plus you have to get a big cog your neverr gonna use when you do decide to upgrade to something stiffer.

raster 11-17-07 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by time bandit (Post 5651597)
lots of 70s/80s bikes had the big ring pressed on to the crankarm. they suck. I've had bad experiences using one, Plus you have to get a big cog your neverr gonna use when you do decide to upgrade to something stiffer.

Thanks for the knowledge. I guess it's fortunate I haven't run up against one of them yet.

I would really just go ahead and buy a new crank jawn.

time bandit 11-17-07 06:15 PM

^yeah, a bulletproof with a decent chainring should be a bit better? Especially if your just getting into it. Donate that crank to local co-op for good karma.

Gluestick 11-17-07 06:22 PM

Is there any way that I could attach the smaller chainring to the bigger one and use that instead?

time bandit 11-17-07 09:22 PM

isnt the smaller chainring already attatched?. sure you could use that. why not? but my guess it will be a tooth count of >/= 40 and you'll need a mad small cog unless you have plenty of hills and need a smaller ratio. it may be slightly harder toget the chainline right on that too. i've tried this and just had better luck on the stamped on large chainring and using a larger cog.

Gluestick 11-18-07 10:11 AM

Ok then it's settled, I'll just use the 52t chainring and a 20t cog. My next question is the size of the cog compared to the hub...are there different sizes? would I be alright with this cog for my fixed gear and a 3/32 chain? http://www.ebikestop.com/items/004-FW2088

time bandit 11-18-07 10:16 AM

yeah, that should work. do you have a fixed hub? stepped threads? get a lockring too.

Gluestick 11-18-07 06:39 PM

I don't have a fixed hub...I actually have to buy a whole new back wheel. I plan on getting something like that cog that in that link above and a lockring...what kind of fixed hub should I get, and can someone suggest one that would fit the cog I want? and I'm not sure about stepped threads; can someone elaborate?

time bandit 11-18-07 06:41 PM

formulas are good inexpensive hubs. bicyclewheels.com has some good track wheels with formulas.

Stepped thread just means there is a thread for the cog and then a smaller thread for the lockring, which screws on counterclockwise to keep the cog on.

Landgolier 11-18-07 06:47 PM

If you use that setup, leave the small ring on as well. Those one piece press on rigs are too floppy without the other ring bolted to them for support, I've seen them completely fold over and fail.

If you want to use the small ring, 40x14 and 40x15 are both totally legit gears, we forget that track cogs come in much smaller sizes than what we usually use on the street.

mikebern 11-18-07 06:53 PM

Im from mass too im running 42/16 right now. where do you live?

Gluestick 11-18-07 07:01 PM

Well I think I'm going to have to buy the whole wheel with fixed hub already installed because I don't think I can do the spokes myself. I live in Rutland...just outside of Worcester.

mander 11-18-07 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Gluestick (Post 5656306)
Well I think I'm going to have to buy the whole wheel with fixed hub already installed because I don't think I can do the spokes myself. I live in Rutland...just outside of Worcester.

Good call, but be advised that the current wheels on your bike may be the old `27"' size, which is just slightly bigger than 700c, the current road standard. Sheldon Brown's website will explain how to find this out.

Gluestick 11-18-07 07:21 PM

My current wheels are 27" but I was advised to get 700c in another thread that I posted. Even though they are slightly smaller, will going from 27" wheels to 700c wheels be a problem?

mander 11-18-07 07:40 PM

If you switch the front to 700c as well, you will probably have to get a longer reach front brake because the rim will be that tiny bit farther away. However it's worth it because it makes tires way easier to find. Also you can fit fenders and fatter tires more easily, if that's your bag.

Gluestick 11-19-07 07:41 AM

alright, i'm fine with that. anyone know where i can get the best deal on a set of 700c's with a fixed hub on the rear? anyone selling any? thanks.

Landgolier 11-19-07 09:47 AM

bicyclewhees.com

Gluestick 11-19-07 10:06 AM

all of the fixed gear wheels i could find on bicyclewheels.com say that they are for sew up tires only. can you use normal tires on them?

jdms mvp 11-19-07 10:07 AM

a gear ratio is just that... a ratio. if u use ur 52t and use an 11t cog...yes u will have a tough time. if you slap a 30t cog on then u will be ready to bmx!

tinydr 11-19-07 10:12 AM

rims for tubulars (sewups) won't work with a clincher... I find it hard to believe they don't have any track wheelsets with clinchers... maybe email them?

Gluestick 11-19-07 08:03 PM

I found some nice ones with rims that work with clinchers. Thanks for everyone's help, the bike should be up and running within the next few months.

masterjack 11-19-07 08:06 PM

all i can say is 42/16

data 11-19-07 08:21 PM

I use 52/17 right now, its not especially easy to skid, but it works and you go fast. should be fine.

bigbadwimp 11-19-07 08:29 PM

I run 46/18 which has turned out pretty nice for the hills around here. I too had one of those permanent 52t chainrings attached to my cranks. I mounted my 46t to the inside position and ground the teeth off of the 52t to make a sort of urban bashguard. I actually like how it looks and am in no hurry to buy new cranks.

raster 11-19-07 08:35 PM

52/12.

Massive quads will ensue.

Landgolier 11-19-07 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by data (Post 5663016)
I use 52/17 right now, its not especially easy to skid, but it works and you go fast. should be fine.


That's 80 gear inches, more like track gearing. Might want to dial it back a little.

cr0w_ 11-20-07 05:37 PM

I run 50/16. ~83 gear inches. I'd suggest something a little lighter.


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