fixed hill climbers read & post
#1
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thomas masini lives
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From: i aint dh no mo'
fixed hill climbers read & post
so the weathers come in and the roads round these parts are filthy with patches of ice and gravel
since im too scared to bomb the descents i might as well start climbing fixed
what gearing do you climbers run
and what do you climb
?
rise over run
or fainting spells over bouts of nausea
since im too scared to bomb the descents i might as well start climbing fixed
what gearing do you climbers run
and what do you climb
?
rise over run
or fainting spells over bouts of nausea
#2
Going up this truly massive hill around these parts (known as "the wall" by certain folks) I tend to drop to about 25 gear inches on the road bicycle and think about every hardcore song I've ever heard. That usually will get me close to the top, but then I loose it and I have to drop down as far as I can get. So maybe something less than that? It's about a 17 percent grade at the toughest spots.
edited to include the grade of the hill.
edited to include the grade of the hill.
#3
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From: Van BC
I like to climb Seymour and Grouse, two roads leading up to ski hills in North Vancouver BC. They both average around 7%, 10 km, 1000 m vertical gain with switchbacks; Cypress' grade is consistent and predictable and Seymour is *****ier and nastier, with steep sections that sneak up on you. I usually do em in a 69 inch gear; it's a little tall but more or less necessary for the ride back down.
Last edited by mander; 11-24-07 at 03:10 AM.
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Depends what hill. One monster is 10% for 3km with the first 1.5 averaging 14%. 38:25 for that one.
Otherwise somewhere around 38:17 tends to be comfortable.
Otherwise somewhere around 38:17 tends to be comfortable.
#7
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From: steel city
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42x17 in and around pittsburgh. i'm a newer cyclist, but young. i am warily accepting the need to up the gear. perhaps 44x15.
with a two-tooth change on both cog and chainring, i could have double rings and both sides of my flipflop armed. this would be an excellent and simple way to manage hilly terrain.
with a two-tooth change on both cog and chainring, i could have double rings and both sides of my flipflop armed. this would be an excellent and simple way to manage hilly terrain.
#8
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I ride a 46x16 with an 18 on the flip side for long, steep mountain rides.
Two tips:
Get a brake. High speed descending is far more comfortable with a brake. Not to mention a lot safer.
Learn to stand for long periods of time. Once you get used to it, it's like shifting down a couple gears. Very useful for short (or long) steep sections.
But mainly, it's all about your heart rate. Keep it just below your LT and you can go for a very long time. Get your heart rate too high, even for a short period and it makes the rest of the climb a lot harder.
Az
Two tips:
Get a brake. High speed descending is far more comfortable with a brake. Not to mention a lot safer.
Learn to stand for long periods of time. Once you get used to it, it's like shifting down a couple gears. Very useful for short (or long) steep sections.
But mainly, it's all about your heart rate. Keep it just below your LT and you can go for a very long time. Get your heart rate too high, even for a short period and it makes the rest of the climb a lot harder.
Az
#9
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i haven't gone up any of the really bad hills on my track bike. i've done some short ones. it's all about keeping your cadence up. if you know it's gonna be hard, sprint into the hill and then keep that speed up or let it die down to the cadence you feel good at. 50x18 all the time. that's a good gear that allows me to ride pretty fast and still stop pretty easy. compromise.
i've gone down one of the bad hills in austin on my track bike (Mt. Bonnell)*...we took a different route up (balcones woods dr.) though because we had riders that would not have made it up the steep way...if the hills are rolling you just keep your cadence high and carry your speed through the hills.
*it's bad because it's really steep and right in the middle of the hill there is a sharp 90* turn...if you have no brakes and get your speed up you can get in BIG trouble.
i've gone down one of the bad hills in austin on my track bike (Mt. Bonnell)*...we took a different route up (balcones woods dr.) though because we had riders that would not have made it up the steep way...if the hills are rolling you just keep your cadence high and carry your speed through the hills.
*it's bad because it's really steep and right in the middle of the hill there is a sharp 90* turn...if you have no brakes and get your speed up you can get in BIG trouble.
#10
road curmudgeon, FG rider
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From: Gaithersburg, MD
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Just got back from a 32 mile hilly (short but steep rolling hills) ride. The outside temps were in the low to mid 30's.
Just switched over to my winter wheels (clinchers with 44X17) as the shoulders get crappier during the cold weather months. In the late spring through early fall I run tubular wheels with 44X16 but I am now working on my spin.
For the very steep stuff I traverse the road (traffic permitting) and gut it out. I run 2 brakes for safety but I am loathe to touch them if I can spin out the 70" gear.
FG riding will help keep you warm.
Good luck!
Just switched over to my winter wheels (clinchers with 44X17) as the shoulders get crappier during the cold weather months. In the late spring through early fall I run tubular wheels with 44X16 but I am now working on my spin.
For the very steep stuff I traverse the road (traffic permitting) and gut it out. I run 2 brakes for safety but I am loathe to touch them if I can spin out the 70" gear.
FG riding will help keep you warm.
Good luck!
#11
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From: Van BC
This really works. I have no HRM so my homebrewed and unscientific way of keeping an eye on my cardiovascular system is to try not to let my breathing exceed my rpms*1.5---i.e. I exhale with every three pedal strokes. At slower hillclimbing speeds this keeps a lid on things.
#12
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From: austin, tx
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i haven't gone up any of the really bad hills on my track bike. i've done some short ones. it's all about keeping your cadence up. if you know it's gonna be hard, sprint into the hill and then keep that speed up or let it die down to the cadence you feel good at. 50x18 all the time. that's a good gear that allows me to ride pretty fast and still stop pretty easy. compromise.
i've gone down one of the bad hills in austin on my track bike (Mt. Bonnell)*...we took a different route up (balcones woods dr.) though because we had riders that would not have made it up the steep way...if the hills are rolling you just keep your cadence high and carry your speed through the hills.
i've gone down one of the bad hills in austin on my track bike (Mt. Bonnell)*...we took a different route up (balcones woods dr.) though because we had riders that would not have made it up the steep way...if the hills are rolling you just keep your cadence high and carry your speed through the hills.
#13
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I ride 42:14 in Cincinnati, which I believe is the hilliest city yet discovered by man (except for SanFran). I had to walk a paticularly steep hill once, but I have been able to handle every other hill. Try to zigzag up the whole hill. Much easier.
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From: Rocket City, No'ala
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This is my longest hill climb on my San Jose 42 x 15:

~5.5% avg. grade (1155ft/4miles)
I've climbed a one block section in my neighborhood that's 27% and I had to zigzag it. My pedal on the "high" side of the bike would hit the pavement and I was using all my arm strength to pull on the bars just to get the cranks to turn over.
On my commute to work I've got just one hill and it's thankfully short but over 8% grade. It makes me sweat so I use the rest of the commute to dry out before getting to work. I bomb down the hill on the way home at over 30mph, spinning like a damn fool.

~5.5% avg. grade (1155ft/4miles)
I've climbed a one block section in my neighborhood that's 27% and I had to zigzag it. My pedal on the "high" side of the bike would hit the pavement and I was using all my arm strength to pull on the bars just to get the cranks to turn over.
On my commute to work I've got just one hill and it's thankfully short but over 8% grade. It makes me sweat so I use the rest of the commute to dry out before getting to work. I bomb down the hill on the way home at over 30mph, spinning like a damn fool.
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42/15 here in Arcata CA and San Diego CA during summer/december.
I've played with 42/16, 48/17, 48/16 and 46/16 to suit the varying grades/lengths of hills between these two locations.
For me the most gratifying part of cycling is whoopin' ass uphill- every hill, every time.
Having said that I could push a higher gear, but 42/15 is most comfertable.
BTW is this spenser from Reed College in Portland?
I've played with 42/16, 48/17, 48/16 and 46/16 to suit the varying grades/lengths of hills between these two locations.
For me the most gratifying part of cycling is whoopin' ass uphill- every hill, every time.
Having said that I could push a higher gear, but 42/15 is most comfertable.
BTW is this spenser from Reed College in Portland?
#21
Going up this truly massive hill around these parts (known as "the wall" by certain folks) I tend to drop to about 25 gear inches on the road bicycle and think about every hardcore song I've ever heard. That usually will get me close to the top, but then I loose it and I have to drop down as far as I can get. So maybe something less than that? It's about a 17 percent grade at the toughest spots.
edited to include the grade of the hill.
edited to include the grade of the hill.
#23
42x16
works for the unimpossible hills of SF
works for the unimpossible hills of SF
I just did Pine St. coming from the northeast side then cut over at Powell and finished up California St. and went down California St. very fast and very scared for my life. Thankfully the tourist out today blocked traffic and I snuck around a car when I had a red light.
#24
via hiptop
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From: youngstown, oh
Bikes: wooden lightning, cyclepro conversion, varsity beater, nishiki conversion, fuji conversion
I'm at 40-17 and I love the about to vomit sensation. I like bull horns for tyhe extension, but when I'm really really climbing at a 38% or greater, it has to be drops. God it feels great.





