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bstrick11 12-06-07 07:28 PM

Lockring help please...
 
What's the best way to secure the cog and lock ring so I can skitch downhill worry free. I tried to lock it on yesterday but coming home from a show I spun it off sliding to slow for a 90 degree turn. Just started running no brakes and really don't want to go back because I feel there is a freedom achieved with this form of riding. Not looking for a flamo thread on brakeless riding, just how to make my cog bombproof n place.

lordgold 12-06-07 07:34 PM

Buy a lockring wrench.
Or take a flat head screwdriver, put it in one of the little spaces, and tap the end of the screwdriver with a hammer. That's what I did, and it's on there pretty ridiculously tight.

Gyeswho 12-06-07 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by lordgold (Post 5760112)
Buy a lockring wrench.
Or take a flat head screwdriver, put it in one of the little spaces, and tap the end of the screwdriver with a hammer. That's what I did, and it's on there pretty ridiculously tight.

no no. you can't get anywhere the tightness that you do with a lockring wrench. I stripped a hub because my ex-shop did it that way. just do it right because that's an important part you don't cut corners with.

queerpunk 12-06-07 07:48 PM

1. grease cog threads, use a chainwhip or the rotafix method to tighten it very firmly
2. grease lockring threads, use a lockring wrench to tighten the **** out of it.
3. go for a ride up a hill and mash down on your cog. don't use any backpressure to stop.
4. tighten lockring again.

JackWGroves 12-06-07 07:50 PM

Go to your LBS and ask to use their lockring wrench.

DDYTDY 12-06-07 07:53 PM

Hozan Hook Spanner FTW!

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/fixedgear.html

roughrider504 12-06-07 08:01 PM

Use rotafix, well unless you have a really nice frame and don't want to scratch it up or something.

ex_ssn_yn1 12-06-07 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 5760209)
1. grease cog threads, use a chainwhip or the rotafix method to tighten it very firmly
2. grease lockring threads, use a lockring wrench to tighten the **** out of it.
3. go for a ride up a hill and mash down on your cog. don't use any backpressure to stop.
4. tighten lockring again.

+1 on the rotafix. and the lockring wrench will cost you 20 bucks at your LBS. I felt some slippage the other week after an emergency skid, rotafix and lockring wrench fixed everything.

BMonei 12-06-07 08:29 PM

Read the instructions!

bonechilling 12-06-07 09:26 PM

If you're going to ride fixed, you're going to need a lockring wrench, so just buy one.

Straws 12-06-07 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by bonechilling (Post 5760812)
If you're going to ride fixed, you're going to need a lockring wrench, so just buy one.

for serious.

idcruiserman 12-06-07 09:47 PM

Go to the gym and do some curls for a few weeks. Use a lockring tool to install the lockring.

bstrick11 12-07-07 08:37 AM

Harsh people. I said I was not looking for flames on this one, simply answers. So here it is, I have every tool in the book including a lockring and only one person seemed to care enough to actually lay it on the line with the mash up the hill with no back pressure then tighten the lockring a second time. Thanks for the help and for the record I read every word of the manual so take the cheap shots and attitude somewhere else.

icknayvon 12-07-07 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by bstrick11 (Post 5762533)
Harsh people. I said I was not looking for flames on this one, simply answers. So here it is, I have every tool in the book including a lockring and only one person seemed to care enough to actually lay it on the line with the mash up the hill with no back pressure then tighten the lockring a second time. Thanks for the help and for the record I read every word of the manual so take the cheap shots and attitude somewhere else.

Generally, people don't come to this forum for the purpose of being flamed, but you did kind of walk yourself right into the fire. Without simply saying "use the search function" I can hint to the fact that this has been discussed countless times. You got the answer you needed as well as a pretty tame bunch of "welcome to the forum" responses. So if not here, where should everyone take their cheap shots and attitude?

D(C) 12-07-07 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by roughrider504 (Post 5760292)
Use rotafix, well unless you have a really nice frame and don't want to scratch it up or something.

If you put some sort of cloth between the chain and the bb shell/chainstay, you should be fine...

balonya 12-07-07 09:20 AM

Yeah you really got off easy. As I read this thread I did not LOL once, I was kind of disappointed, since the main reason I read it was because I though it would be funny – I thought for sure you were setting yourself up to get burned.

mihlbach 12-07-07 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by balonya (Post 5762796)
Yeah you really got off easy.

Yeah, I agree. This thread is too nice, but that's easily fixed. How about this...

Get a brake, ******bag.

bonechilling 12-07-07 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by bstrick11 (Post 5762533)
Harsh people. I said I was not looking for flames on this one, simply answers. So here it is, I have every tool in the book including a lockring and only one person seemed to care enough to actually lay it on the line with the mash up the hill with no back pressure then tighten the lockring a second time. Thanks for the help and for the record I read every word of the manual so take the cheap shots and attitude somewhere else.

Huh? Who was harsh? All I read is earnest advice from pepople really trying to help. Are you really upset that we told you to buy a lockring wrench? For the life of me, I can't figure out what you're bothered over.

Also, if you have to ask questions like this, you shouldn't be riding brake-less.

666pack 12-07-07 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by bstrick11 (Post 5762533)
Harsh people. I said I was not looking for flames on this one, simply answers. So here it is, I have every tool in the book including a lockring and only one person seemed to care enough to actually lay it on the line with the mash up the hill with no back pressure then tighten the lockring a second time. Thanks for the help and for the record I read every word of the manual so take the cheap shots and attitude somewhere else.

"for the record i read every word of the manual..."
well you missed the part about tightening lockrings and not looking like an idiot, huh?
don't try and act all snarky here pal, you're the one who came in asking a dumb question and it's not up to you to decide if flaming will happen or not.

Boss Moniker 12-07-07 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by bstrick11 (Post 5762533)
Harsh people. I said I was not looking for flames on this one, simply answers. So here it is, I have every tool in the book including a lockring and only one person seemed to care enough to actually lay it on the line with the mash up the hill with no back pressure then tighten the lockring a second time. Thanks for the help and for the record I read every word of the manual so take the cheap shots and attitude somewhere else.

No one is flaming you. One guy told you to read the instructions, and the other told you work out which was really just him telling you to crank the hell out of the lockring. And those are valid suggestions.

And are you really planning on skitching downhill?

bonechilling 12-07-07 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Boss Moniker (Post 5764500)
And are you really planning on skitching downhill?

...and without brakes and on a fixed gear.

I'm guessing the OP doesn't know the difference between "skitching" and "skidding."

Zombie Carl 12-07-07 01:42 PM

What a cry baby.

dobber 12-07-07 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by bstrick11 (Post 5762533)
Harsh people. I said I was not looking for flames on this one, simply answers. So here it is, I have every tool in the book including a lockring and only one person seemed to care enough to actually lay it on the line with the mash up the hill with no back pressure then tighten the lockring a second time. Thanks for the help and for the record I read every word of the manual so take the cheap shots and attitude somewhere else.

Funny, I can get the cog and lockring on plenty tight without resorting to mashing up hills, etc.

Maybe you need a little upper body strength?

queerpunk 12-07-07 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by dobber (Post 5764834)
Funny, I can get the cog and lockring on plenty tight without resorting to mashing up hills, etc.

Maybe you need a little upper body strength?


he was responding to my advice.
i can get on without resorting to mashing up hills, too. but when it comes to people who don't necessarily seem like they've got a whole lot of experience feeling how tight things need to be, it never hurts to be certain. does it?

dobber 12-07-07 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 5765078)
he was responding to my advice.
i can get on without resorting to mashing up hills, too. but when it comes to people who don't necessarily seem like they've got a whole lot of experience feeling how tight things need to be, it never hurts to be certain. does it?


Certainly. But does a competent bike mechanic go mashing. You can get a lot more torque on the cog and lockring using the proper tools and maybe a short piece of pipe.

Grease it, tighten it, check it.

To me, having to resort to gimimicks seems that maybe we're working with sub-par components.

Kol.klink 12-07-07 03:27 PM

Rota-fix
Then
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icknayvon 12-07-07 03:35 PM

I think the OP has run off. Which leads me to believe that...

A. His mind was exploded with knowledge
B. He didn't really want to hang out on the internets
C. He is enjoying his new found brakeless freedoms
D. It was too late, and his cog slipped, leading to extravagant failure, resulting in the statement "Dang! These K-Fed tickets aren't refundable?"

bstrick11 12-07-07 07:05 PM

This was fun really and I do think the problem is behind me. I think I'll start feeding myself to the sharks more often. You guys are a ball of fun..... no really. Thanks again to the people who did help. The hill mash with no back pedal seemed to be the trick. If I'm a ******bag then I guess I'll take my ball and go home, because I certainly don't want to stay, put up a fight, waste my time.....F-it I'm going riding......brakeless and happy.

fetch 12-07-07 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by bstrick11 (Post 5766588)
This was fun really and I do think the problem is behind me. I think I'll start feeding myself to the sharks more often. You guys are a ball of fun..... no really. Thanks again to the people who did help. The hill mash with no back pedal seemed to be the trick. If I'm a ******bag then I guess I'll take my ball and go home, because I certainly don't want to stay, put up a fight, waste my time.....F-it I'm going riding......brakeless and happy.

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andrewssohip 12-10-07 09:36 AM

what even happened in this thread?


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