Tubular Tires.
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Tubular Tires.
So i just invested in a set of wheels that i plan on using on the street. And theyre tubular. So this question is for all of you who ride tubulars on the streets.
Which tire do you recommend for use on street?
Simple, easy, and hopefully deathare doesnt start some stupid crap. Haha.
Oh and if your wondering what the wheelset is ... Its a Zip 3000 front/rear TriSpoke with a Zipp 950 Disk. Matching pink with yellow writing. And i may throw it on a Bareknuckle that im hopefully trading for my Masi Coltello.
And its odd how NOONE has feigned any interest in my Aerospoke that i put in the trade thread. Looks like all the bashing you guys do has worked, well at least for the members of this forum.
Which tire do you recommend for use on street?
Simple, easy, and hopefully deathare doesnt start some stupid crap. Haha.
Oh and if your wondering what the wheelset is ... Its a Zip 3000 front/rear TriSpoke with a Zipp 950 Disk. Matching pink with yellow writing. And i may throw it on a Bareknuckle that im hopefully trading for my Masi Coltello.
And its odd how NOONE has feigned any interest in my Aerospoke that i put in the trade thread. Looks like all the bashing you guys do has worked, well at least for the members of this forum.
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Continental competition, podium, GP tubular.
Anything from Dugast, Veloflex (hand made in Italy), higher end Tufo.
Rolling tubulars is a luxury, and you need to buy the quality tires to truly enjoy the experience. Don't skimp out on cheap tires, stick to hand made stuff. If you buy something less than $60-70 you will end up with a wobbly tire that is worse than the cheapest clincher.
It also depends on what your intended use it. If this is a track-only wheelset, go for something very light with a thin tread. Width depends on distance -- narrow for match sprint type stuff and wider for greater comfort over longer distances.
Personally I roll one Cane Creek set with a conti podium up front with a conti competition on the rear. No problems yet *knock wood*, but I avoid puncture prone areas with much caution.
On my other DA/araya wheelset i have an Andre Dugast up front and a Vittoria rally on the rear (cheap tubular I picked up for nothing, trying my best to skid thru it) The Dugast is like rolling on air....
Anything from Dugast, Veloflex (hand made in Italy), higher end Tufo.
Rolling tubulars is a luxury, and you need to buy the quality tires to truly enjoy the experience. Don't skimp out on cheap tires, stick to hand made stuff. If you buy something less than $60-70 you will end up with a wobbly tire that is worse than the cheapest clincher.
It also depends on what your intended use it. If this is a track-only wheelset, go for something very light with a thin tread. Width depends on distance -- narrow for match sprint type stuff and wider for greater comfort over longer distances.
Personally I roll one Cane Creek set with a conti podium up front with a conti competition on the rear. No problems yet *knock wood*, but I avoid puncture prone areas with much caution.
On my other DA/araya wheelset i have an Andre Dugast up front and a Vittoria rally on the rear (cheap tubular I picked up for nothing, trying my best to skid thru it) The Dugast is like rolling on air....
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I ride tubulars on the street over here in Japan but I only have experience with cheapo Vittoria Rallys or Panaracer Practices that I get locally for around $14/tire. Of the 2 cheapos, Vittorias seem "harder/rougher/longer wear" and Panaracers "softer/wear faster" ran at the same tire pressure (around 9 bar).
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If for general use, go with the Conti Sprinter 250 or the Sprinter Gatorskin.
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Continental Podiums are the ****ing worst. Avoid them at all cost. The Sprinter is good, I've used that on a few bikes, but if you're going to be doing all street riding, just get some Sprinter Gatorskin tubbies. They're heavier than average, but just like the clinchers, they're near impossible to flat.
Lots of people seem to like the new Yellow Jersey tubular, but I haven't tried it yet. It's hard to go wrong for the price, though.
Lots of people seem to like the new Yellow Jersey tubular, but I haven't tried it yet. It's hard to go wrong for the price, though.
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Holmes... Podium is the same thing as the Sprinter but without extra casing and tread protection.
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Continental competition, podium, GP tubular.
Anything from Dugast, Veloflex (hand made in Italy), higher end Tufo.
Rolling tubulars is a luxury, and you need to buy the quality tires to truly enjoy the experience. Don't skimp out on cheap tires, stick to hand made stuff. If you buy something less than $60-70 you will end up with a wobbly tire that is worse than the cheapest clincher.
Anything from Dugast, Veloflex (hand made in Italy), higher end Tufo.
Rolling tubulars is a luxury, and you need to buy the quality tires to truly enjoy the experience. Don't skimp out on cheap tires, stick to hand made stuff. If you buy something less than $60-70 you will end up with a wobbly tire that is worse than the cheapest clincher.
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I dunno, I had two Podiums in a row with giant hops in them. Seems like, if they're Sprinters, then they're Sprinter seconds or something.
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rally's suck, they flat and ride like ****.
never ridden the panaracer practice but it might be ok, i think ceya said the 300gram panaracer was a good tire...i bet he was talking about the practice.
i tried a vredestein volante tub and it was ok, ride was ok, a little waviness by the valvestem but you could only see it, not feel it while riding. i was told they make good tires but the quality control is not the best.
OP, did you win those dura ace hubs laced to the campy tubular rims that were on ebay?
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bonechilling, never had that experience with Podiums. You must have got a freak tube.
I'm wanting to try the Yellow jersey tubbies. G
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I've ridden a friends Conti Sprinter Gatorskins and also heard nothing but good stuff about them for the street. That's what I'd run, atleast.
I may be going tubular up front pretty soon. What's the deal with riding tubulars in the rain? I've heard it's bad news, any truth to this?
I may be going tubular up front pretty soon. What's the deal with riding tubulars in the rain? I've heard it's bad news, any truth to this?
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Nothing from me.
Id like to run tubulars. I did for a day, actually.
I like the rim choices for one thing with tubulars.
Im too lazy to deal with the mounting though i think.
Id like to run tubulars. I did for a day, actually.
I like the rim choices for one thing with tubulars.
Im too lazy to deal with the mounting though i think.
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I've ridden a friends Conti Sprinter Gatorskins and also heard nothing but good stuff about them for the street. That's what I'd run, atleast.
I may be going tubular up front pretty soon. What's the deal with riding tubulars in the rain? I've heard it's bad news, any truth to this?
I may be going tubular up front pretty soon. What's the deal with riding tubulars in the rain? I've heard it's bad news, any truth to this?
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I think the people that skid their tubulars into oblivion are probably riding cheap tubular tires. Which pretty much defeats the purpose of riding a tubular i think. From what i read in the Continental tubular tests all but the most expensive tubular tires have a higher rolling resistance than that of most decent cheap clincher tires.
Unless you have an expensive ass tubular tire or have to run em for the wheels you only have, its just for looks. Or maybe a slight weight saving?
Unless you have an expensive ass tubular tire or have to run em for the wheels you only have, its just for looks. Or maybe a slight weight saving?
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Well the set currently has a Continental Comps on them.
Ill check out the local lbs and see what i can pick up. I most probably will go with Continenals.
OT: People are so desperate for these Aerospokes, i was just offered $250 plus shipping on mine. And thats what i paid about a year ago for it.
Too bad im probably not going to sell it. When i get offered $300 ill ditch it haha.
Ill check out the local lbs and see what i can pick up. I most probably will go with Continenals.
OT: People are so desperate for these Aerospokes, i was just offered $250 plus shipping on mine. And thats what i paid about a year ago for it.
Too bad im probably not going to sell it. When i get offered $300 ill ditch it haha.
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I run the conti gator sprinter. they are my 1st tubies to roll on but feel really great compared to gator clinchers. I don't skid much anyway but do skip when needed, but back pedaling is the main thing to do. Too early to say much about them but I found a site that has them for the same price as a gator clincher.
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Well the set currently has a Continental Comps on them.
Ill check out the local lbs and see what i can pick up. I most probably will go with Continenals.
OT: People are so desperate for these Aerospokes, i was just offered $250 plus shipping on mine. And thats what i paid about a year ago for it.
Too bad im probably not going to sell it. When i get offered $300 ill ditch it haha.
Ill check out the local lbs and see what i can pick up. I most probably will go with Continenals.
OT: People are so desperate for these Aerospokes, i was just offered $250 plus shipping on mine. And thats what i paid about a year ago for it.
Too bad im probably not going to sell it. When i get offered $300 ill ditch it haha.
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Why do you keep bringing up the Aerospoke?
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I try to lay off skidding/skipping on my cheap-ass Panaracer tubulars. I had one bad experience flatting-- not from skidding though but skipping onto...something sharp. I've been good since then on the same set for 6 months.
But my tubular wheelset (that came with an old frame) is muuuch lighter than my clincher set (albeit Deep V), rides really nicely, and the cheapo tires don't strike me as having higher rolling resistance than the Gatorskins I have on the clincher set. Meh. When these tires go perhaps i'll try a more expensive tubular....but for now I have no complaints about the cheapos.
But my tubular wheelset (that came with an old frame) is muuuch lighter than my clincher set (albeit Deep V), rides really nicely, and the cheapo tires don't strike me as having higher rolling resistance than the Gatorskins I have on the clincher set. Meh. When these tires go perhaps i'll try a more expensive tubular....but for now I have no complaints about the cheapos.