hi im converting this nishiki sport this is where it sits as of now,before i drop 200bucks on some wheels i was was thinking of buying a kilo tt and as i upgrade the kilo i can throw what i want on the nishiki off the kilo here are a few pictures what do you guys think?




sorry for the crappy pics i didnt have much space to take them.

The Nishiki looks decent enough, but I like the sounds of the Kilo upgrade plan. That way you'll probably be able to have a beater bike sooner rather than later, and have all your parts upgrades invested in a better frame.

take some links out that chain...haha, try and get it tightish that way while it sits near the front of the drop outs, then use the dropouts to tighten it.
I think that looks like a decent frame, and I would save the 350 bucks to buy wheels, a crank and a saddle.
I'm sure some folks on here will disagree, but I really like road conversions.

this was posted as i was typing my reply, but I would say build this bike up to something you are comfortable with and then look into a nicer frameset. while the kilo isnt a "bad" frameset, there are other more desireable framesets that I would build up if i was building a "nice" bike.
though I have little room to talk in the nice bike department, my current whip is a haggard beast.

Oh, same for me too. 'Nice' to me is usually more about fit and geometry than the bling factor. IMO if it isn't made of gaspipes or going to fall apart in a couple weeks, it's nice enough to ride until it dies provided the bike fits the way you want.

I think we could be friends already.
haha, I would ride that nishiki in a heartbeat if it was in decent condition and fit. I dont know much about that frame, but it appears to be lugged and its a cutie. You could be charitable and ship it to me if you arent going to use it

Interesting idea, but please note that by the time you've upgraded everything you'll actually have three bikes.

...minus a frame.
its a pretty crucial bit of a bike.
what hes saying is he will ride his kilo, and build it up, putting the old parts from it on the nishiki.
he will be short a wheelset and a frame, probably short a fork too unless he upgrades that.

Man, do I wish I had this problem.

I would build up the nishiki unless you are most concerned with the "bling factor." Use the money to put into a rad wheelset to recovery lost bling points. Besides, I like that frame.
The saddle looks like it belongs on a beach cruiser

haha im glad you like it, but this is all i have for now =P

Indeed, throw some nice cranks on it, a nice wheelset and maybe a nice saddle if your picky and ride it to death. Just please dont put deep V's on it...

Hahaha. Who knows where that saddle came from. I bought the bike in Berkeley from a used bike shop.

how much did you pay for it?

i bought it for 200 it looked like this



did i overpay ???

eh, I dunno. It looks like a decent frameset, in good condition. Overall that bike is more than rideable as is, so I wouldnt say you overpayed, though its more than I would want to pay for a frame I planned to strip and convert. on the upside its set for a new set of crank arms, so you probably wont have to replace the BB and the front wheel is probably rideable, so you could ride it as a fixie with just a new back wheel and a new chain.

Looks like a standard 4130 Cro-Mo Nishiki frame, as good or better than a Kilo TT. I would buy the bicyclewheels.com Mavic/Formula combos and ride it as-is.

I would agree, I have the mavic/formulas and they are great.
I just did a bit of reading on Nishiki sports, which is what you have there.
While what people payed for them varied (yard sales to biek shops etc) they seem to be frames that are praised consistently as rugged, nice frames. I would say most of what you payed for may have been the tuneup and work that was done by your LBS.
It should make a beautiful conversion.

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dam i think i wanna build the nishiki and buy a kilo hahaha maybe build the nishiki and get my gf the kilo thats a possibility,i dunno tho i saw someone that posted their kilo in another thread i fell in love with it

the geometry on the kilo is very similar to that of the pista which is a very liked geometry.
I think its a very nice geometry, and have been thinking of picking one up as a project. You can probably have the nashiki in good working order for less than 250 bucks, including new cranks, chain and a wheelset. Then ride that till you have the cash to put together a kilo/other frameset build you will love.

I was just browsing the FGG and came across this.
https://fixedgeargallery.com/2008/jan/2/TimLynd_2.htm
consider it inspiration.

oooo i definatly like that! sweet bike ooo inspiration hehe.

until he upgrades past the kilo framset. then it's time for the parts merry-go-round once again...

I agree with teh above. Get the Nishiki to ride the way you like and save up for a frame that you really want.

so basically you guys are saying that it wouldnt make sense in me getting the kilo when i already have the nishiki which is nearly equal or greater than the kilo since i would want to replace the parts on the kilo anyways. that does make sense i could always get the nishiki powder coated it is pretty scratched up. i was also wondering the metal decal on the front can that be covered if it was powder coated or does it have to be taken off?