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Old 01-18-08, 05:30 PM
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Quick-Releases with Track-Ends

Anyone had success in using QR's with track ends? I get conflicting information about whether or not they're strong enough to hold position in anything but vertical-dropouts.
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Old 01-18-08, 05:34 PM
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People will say they don't trust them, but I've seen it done without problems. Sheldon seems to think they work fine. It's been argued over quite a bit here, I'm sure you could find a thread with lots of people expressing their opinions without much substantial information to back either side.
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I have not done it Myself but I trust Sheldon, Do what he says Get a Shimano enclosed cam skewer and Tighten that **** up.


I used a Rusty/Crappy, old Simplex QR on my SS for 6 months it worked fine, Had i wanted to go fixed, I would have got a proper skewer

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Old 01-18-08, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Briareos
whether or not they're strong enough to hold position in anything but vertical-dropouts.
If that was true people would be dying left and right with horizontal dropouts and modern QR's.
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Old 01-18-08, 06:27 PM
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Get tugnuts with the QR skewers. I doubt QBP would sell something that was blatantly dangerous. Also, have QR's on the 29er (fixed/free), and it works fine with one tensioner ... and I doubt a street bike sees more torque than a 200 lbs guy running 32/29 and mashing up a huge hill

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It's totally safe. A properly tightened QR is going to hold the wheel as tight as your track nuts are. In fact, I believe that QR wheels are used and allowed at non-mass start track events, so lots of riders who are stronger than you will ever be are torquing the **** out of them everyday. And this is ignoring the mass strength of your average sprinter in the days before vertical dropouts, who (to the best of my knowledge) never threw their wheels from sprinting.

But if you still have doubt, buy the allen-key skewers. You can tight that to tomorrow and back.
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Originally Posted by bonechilling
But if you still have doubt, buy the allen-key skewers. You can tight that to tomorrow and back.
Actually, the allen key skewers are a lot weaker. They break easily when being tightened and the cheaper ones have a propensity to slip because they don't use a steel insert like good shimano QR's do.

Avoid.
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+1 getting a real one, +1 making sure to properly tighten it. In addition to the Shimano and Campy ones, the Salsa ones are really well made. Just avoid the no-name bargain bin jobs.
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Originally Posted by Briareos
Anyone had success in using QR's with track ends? I get conflicting information about whether or not they're strong enough to hold position in anything but vertical-dropouts.

They will work perfectly for you (well, they do for me) by adding a 'Tug-nut'.
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I think they would be ok, but personally hate the way they look. Because of that I have no experience using them so just ignore this post.
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Old 01-18-08, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by barba
Make sure that you use a good quality internal cam skewer (i.e. Shimano or Campagnolo).
barba's got it right. you want an internal cam and not an external cam.

as for what sheldon thinks, he agrees
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html
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The majority of TT/Tri frames have track drop outs and use QR
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I tried this the other day on my single speed. I tightened the quick release as much as I would on a road bike. The wheel was pulled up and the chain went loose after a few minutes. I put the wheel back on and tightened the quick release extra tight. Since then its been riding fine.
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The problem with a quick release is that you have a hard time getting chain tension with a fixed gear. But a Surly tugnut solves that problem.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDoyle
+1 getting a real one, +1 making sure to properly tighten it. In addition to the Shimano and Campy ones, the Salsa ones are really well made. Just avoid the no-name bargain bin jobs.
Don't use salsa as they are external cam'ed and have aluminum caps. I used them with ill success. Use these:

and you will never have a problem. The older campy QR's are all steel, including the lever which allow you to get the insanely tight. I have used these, Superbe Pro, and old Dura Ace QR's with unfailing success. They are heavy, but even for a weight wennie like me, they are totally worth it.
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I've been having problems with my hub moving forward. I have a single speed bike, XT hub and QR. Maybe it's just a problem with the temperature change from inside to outside. could be as much a 70F degree difference.
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Originally Posted by mmerner
I've been having problems with my hub moving forward. I have a single speed bike, XT hub and QR. Maybe it's just a problem with the temperature change from inside to outside. could be as much a 70F degree difference.

A 'tug-nut' will fix your problem.
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