Scene in Berlin
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Scene in Berlin
I'm moving to Berlin in a couple of months--I know there's a scene (I know about Keirin Cafe too), but does anyone know of a forum (like NYC fixed gear) for Berlin? I can't find anything through simple google searches, so I thought I'd throw it out here.
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Fixed Gear in Berlin
Hi,
if it's no problem for you to read and write in german, you can try this forum. Hopefully they understand your english although.
Another Website to get in contact to the berlin scene is Cicli Berlinetta.
And here are some general informations about bike messengers and fixed gear scene in Berlin.
If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.
Cheers
YaGonna
if it's no problem for you to read and write in german, you can try this forum. Hopefully they understand your english although.
Another Website to get in contact to the berlin scene is Cicli Berlinetta.
And here are some general informations about bike messengers and fixed gear scene in Berlin.
If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.
Cheers
YaGonna
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Awesome, thanks guys for the bit of help. I just bought my ticket--May 15 here I come! I don't know anyone there (I've got some friends of friends I'm going to e-mail in the next few months), I don't know German really well, and I don't have a job set up or a place to live. It's going to be me, a few clothes, and my bike. I'm so stoked! Seriously, I can't believe I just bought a one-way ticket to another country!!!
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Awesome, thanks guys for the bit of help. I just bought my ticket--May 15 here I come! I don't know anyone there (I've got some friends of friends I'm going to e-mail in the next few months), I don't know German really well, and I don't have a job set up or a place to live. It's going to be me, a few clothes, and my bike. I'm so stoked! Seriously, I can't believe I just bought a one-way ticket to another country!!!
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hopefully you have EU citizenship. If not you arent going to "get a job". Not without sponsorship of a German company in which you have a skill they can't find in a German. Americans are not welcome to come and work in Europe. You will need schwartzarbeit (black work) and you'll get paid like a mexican gets paid here. One more thing to think about: one way ticket. You may have a hard time passing through customs with that. That is a red flag that you plan to overstay your 90 welcome as a tourist. Are you a dual citizen or the child of a natural born German? Good luck - Berlin is, in my opinion, the best city in the world. I once did what you are doing. I brought 10 thousand dollars and lasted 6 months. I never found a real job with sponsorship.
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One-way ticket holders with that description are often denied entry and sent right back home, at the traveler's cost, of course.
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this forum isnt really berlin specific, but you could check it out and ask around...https://eingangradforum.de/ im studying in germany and i love it here, i hope you do too.
but what was said about getting a job is.. well, sadly true. what you could end up doing is maybe getting a job teaching english, but you kind of need to know a bit of german to do that...
the overall fixed gear scene in germany is well, pretty non-existent, i dont know how it is in berlin but most people here dont even know what a fixed gear bike is.. couple roadies, and lots of people just riding this city commuter type bikes..
viel glück und viel spaß wünsche ich dir.
but what was said about getting a job is.. well, sadly true. what you could end up doing is maybe getting a job teaching english, but you kind of need to know a bit of german to do that...
the overall fixed gear scene in germany is well, pretty non-existent, i dont know how it is in berlin but most people here dont even know what a fixed gear bike is.. couple roadies, and lots of people just riding this city commuter type bikes..
viel glück und viel spaß wünsche ich dir.
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I've got EU citizenship and have been wanting a random new place to move to. I've never been to Berlin but only hear great things about it. The thing is, I'm not the biggest fan of the general German populace, but comments have me thinking that Berlin is somehow different.
My Dutch is okay so I figure I can pick up German easily. Since a few people here have tried Berlin (or are about to), how is it at first with very little to no ability to speak German?
My Dutch is okay so I figure I can pick up German easily. Since a few people here have tried Berlin (or are about to), how is it at first with very little to no ability to speak German?
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I'm not too worried about the job thing. I should be able to get one teaching English no problem and my university can help me set that up (I guess there's something to be said for graduating from one of the top universities in the US...or something...good resources at least). I have a few months to work out the details.
I'm not stupid, just psyched.
I also know enough German to get by and I'm brushing up on it--Ich werde nicht gesorgt.
I'm not stupid, just psyched.
I also know enough German to get by and I'm brushing up on it--Ich werde nicht gesorgt.
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I've got EU citizenship and have been wanting a random new place to move to. I've never been to Berlin but only hear great things about it. The thing is, I'm not the biggest fan of the general German populace, but comments have me thinking that Berlin is somehow different.
My Dutch is okay so I figure I can pick up German easily. Since a few people here have tried Berlin (or are about to), how is it at first with very little to no ability to speak German?
My Dutch is okay so I figure I can pick up German easily. Since a few people here have tried Berlin (or are about to), how is it at first with very little to no ability to speak German?
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Oh, I'm familiar with living in places with foreign languages. I was just wondering how Berlin is in particular.
Germans, in my experience, are not as friendly as the Dutch. It obviously depends on the region and also where you come from/what you look like, unfortunately.
Yea, Amsterdam is nice, but I already spent 5 years in Nederland and will wait a little while to revisit that cute little country.
Germans, in my experience, are not as friendly as the Dutch. It obviously depends on the region and also where you come from/what you look like, unfortunately.
Yea, Amsterdam is nice, but I already spent 5 years in Nederland and will wait a little while to revisit that cute little country.
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Though I said before that I don't know anything about the bike scene, much less the fixed gear scene in Berlin, I have been there and I will say that it is my favorite city in the world besides my own. You will have blast, no doubt. Work will be a problem, apart from the work visa issues there is little work to be had anyway - but it is very cheap to live there, in Kreuzberg you can get a really nice 1 bedroom apartment for like 200 euros a month. As for English, yes, most Germans do speak good English, at least those under the age of 45, however, you really should learn some German if you want to get around, and definitely if you want to make any friends while you are there. I took German for 2 years in college before I went and it made all the difference. Even if what you are saying is not 100% correct, and even if they just respond in English because they realize you're an Amerikaner, they appreciate the effort, and will generally be helpful. And I'll say once again, I'm jealous.
Check out the club Tresor. It's ridiculoid.
Check out the club Tresor. It's ridiculoid.
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There are lot of Berlin websites where people look for and advertise for different types of flatshares and rooms so if don't already know about those, try to find someone how can point you to those.
I've had lot of friends who have lived there for longer of shorter time periods and finding a cheap room before actually going there was never an issue to anyone.
I've had lot of friends who have lived there for longer of shorter time periods and finding a cheap room before actually going there was never an issue to anyone.
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I'm not too worried about the job thing. I should be able to get one teaching English no problem and my university can help me set that up (I guess there's something to be said for graduating from one of the top universities in the US...or something...good resources at least). I have a few months to work out the details.
I'm not stupid, just psyched.
I also know enough German to get by and I'm brushing up on it--Ich werde nicht gesorgt.
I'm not stupid, just psyched.
I also know enough German to get by and I'm brushing up on it--Ich werde nicht gesorgt.
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I've got EU citizenship and have been wanting a random new place to move to. I've never been to Berlin but only hear great things about it. The thing is, I'm not the biggest fan of the general German populace, but comments have me thinking that Berlin is somehow different.
My Dutch is okay so I figure I can pick up German easily. Since a few people here have tried Berlin (or are about to), how is it at first with very little to no ability to speak German?
My Dutch is okay so I figure I can pick up German easily. Since a few people here have tried Berlin (or are about to), how is it at first with very little to no ability to speak German?
That, and one can't really say they arent a fan of a german populace, i know plenty of amazing germans, and not so great germans.. exactly the same with americans, one can not generalize a population, especially in this modern world. Granted there are some cultural differences, but you should never really encounter problems because its not an extreme difference, especially among todays generation.
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Well, thanks for the wise talk. One can always generalize. It's just common sense to interpret it as no more than that, a generalization.
Culture is not a small factor. Lots of things about American culture made me leave that place. Many people supersede their country's/culture's ****ty traits, but unfortunately more don't--and that's what I was talking about, the general folk.
Amongst my best friends are a German and an American, but as far as the general populations go, Germans and Americans are some of my least favourite people. Sorry, but "this modern world" hasn't gotten rid of bad character traits that are to a large degree cultural. Take religious and racial intolerance, which has been seriously on the rise in Western Europe...again.
Culture is not a small factor. Lots of things about American culture made me leave that place. Many people supersede their country's/culture's ****ty traits, but unfortunately more don't--and that's what I was talking about, the general folk.
Amongst my best friends are a German and an American, but as far as the general populations go, Germans and Americans are some of my least favourite people. Sorry, but "this modern world" hasn't gotten rid of bad character traits that are to a large degree cultural. Take religious and racial intolerance, which has been seriously on the rise in Western Europe...again.
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Um, compared to the preceeding period when tolerance seemed to be increasing. For some reason you want a date, so I'd say generally 10 years ago things were more mellow on the immigration/race front for western EU countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, etc..
It's not a secret. It's been a much bigger-than-usual issue in politics and people's general sentiments (although the politics are somewhat cyclical...right, left, right, left). Never heard of Le Pen, Pim Fortuyn, or Haider, for instance? They came to prominence rather late in their careers because the time became ripe for a bunch of racists.
It's not a secret. It's been a much bigger-than-usual issue in politics and people's general sentiments (although the politics are somewhat cyclical...right, left, right, left). Never heard of Le Pen, Pim Fortuyn, or Haider, for instance? They came to prominence rather late in their careers because the time became ripe for a bunch of racists.
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Um, compared to the preceeding period when tolerance seemed to be increasing. For some reason you want a date, so I'd say generally 10 years ago things were more mellow on the immigration/race front for western EU countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, etc..
Um, it's not been a secret. It's been a much bigger-than-usual issue in politics and the press (although it's somewhat cyclical...right, left, right, left). Never heard of Le Pen, Pim Fortuyn, or Haider, for instance?
Um, it's not been a secret. It's been a much bigger-than-usual issue in politics and the press (although it's somewhat cyclical...right, left, right, left). Never heard of Le Pen, Pim Fortuyn, or Haider, for instance?



