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Cynikal 02-09-08 09:29 PM

I hope this will be deployed on town bikes with geared hubs. I would think that they would sell really well. The no lube and clean bike thing would bring a new wave of casual riders on the roads.

Ex Pres 02-09-08 11:54 PM

The elevated stay design is a way to keep from having to "break" the stay or belt to remove it.

Sizzle-Chest 02-10-08 12:34 AM

this is just the auto industry's latest conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily bicycles. its starts with belts, next thing you know your fixed gear comes standard with a V8 that gets 4 mpg.

mark9950 02-10-08 04:29 AM

Ever hear of belt wear and slippage,if you are over 200 lbs do not even think about it.I rode one of those things and would never buy one.

MartinK 02-10-08 07:21 AM

I think the coupling solution for these belt driven bikes is very sweet too.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2nkpi7r.jpg

ralphm2k 02-10-08 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 6138922)
I think the coupling solution for these belt driven bikes is very sweet too.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2nkpi7r.jpg


This is a monstrosity.

diff_lock2 02-10-08 09:16 AM

Yeah. It is.

Cynikal 02-10-08 12:18 PM

Does it make sense to have a rear axle that is wider than your handlebars?

wroomwroomoops 02-10-08 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Cynikal (Post 6139917)
Does it make sense to have a rear axle that is wider than your handlebars?

Tandems have wide wheels at the hub - the wider the spokes reach onto the hub, the stronger the wheel. Sadly, not many tandem hubs really utilize the added space that tandem dropouts allow for.

blickblocks 02-10-08 12:35 PM

It's funny how universal some of the newer technologies seem to be across the different framebuilders. Disc brakes, sliding dropouts, belt drive, internal hub gearing, etc. A lot of them are even fixed gear.

Cynikal 02-10-08 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 6139945)
Tandems have wide wheels at the hub - the wider the spokes reach onto the hub, the stronger the wheel. Sadly, not many tandem hubs really utilize the added space that tandem dropouts allow for.

I agree, wide flanges = stronger wheel but the beast above is missing out on 40mm on each side of the hub. I guess its a good demonstration piece but not really worth it on a production bike. That being said, I understand that this show is less about the production and more about the "look what I can do" aspect of custom buidling.

ryansexton 02-10-08 01:43 PM

I want to ride one of those belts so bad.

jpearl 02-10-08 10:59 PM

I'd say that this is technology that needs time to mature. It's a good idea, and it's nice to see the experimentation under way. For right now, though the SS CX bike looks cool, the two prominent questions are:

1. How does the belt-drive system hold up under insanely nasty CX conditions (i.e. mud, sand, dirt, grass, water...)?

2. Just how much torque can the system take? What would happen if we put a monster-sprinter like Alessandro Petacchi or Tom Boonen on one of those bikes and said "go!"?

12XU 02-10-08 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Cynikal (Post 6140241)
more about the "look what I can do" aspect of custom buidling.

This is always what bike shows have been about. The more attention drawn to a brand, the more orders which will come in for the most mundane of builds simply because he/she did that crazy thing with that new item.

trace215 02-10-08 11:36 PM

Looks like a solution in search of a problem to me.

Igneous Faction 02-10-08 11:40 PM

I remain skeptical. Sure, cars can run their belts for 100,000 miles in an environment that goes from outdoor temperature to 100 degrees celsius, etc...

But it's a new technology. I'm sure it will require more development.

However, this seems ready to be utilized right now without problems on 3-speed commuter type bicycles designed for city riding. I bet it would be a pretty attractive feature for most non-serious cyclist types.

bbattle 02-11-08 06:26 AM

barefoot trackstand on a bed?

http://flickr.com/photos/fastboy/2121357174/

2manybikes 02-11-08 06:51 AM

Good way to slow your bike down and waste energy. It comes up evey few months. Getting the tension tight enough is a real pain. If you add in a geared hub to have gear choices the bike gets even slower and less efficent.

Nothing like having a specific frame built to make a bike slower and harder to get parts for, to make life difficult. It's old old old stuff.

travsi 02-11-08 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by trace215 (Post 6143389)
Looks like a solution in search of a problem to me.

yes...thank you.

jmichaeldesign 02-11-08 01:51 PM

My take on this. As a former equipment mechanic I replaced just as many broekn belts as I did chains. In my experience they are equally strong. Also belts don't wear down their pulleys as fast as a chain will wear on a cog/chainring. Belts don't need any lube.

I think belts would be great on single speed/internally geared commuter bikes for someone who doesn't want to do any/much maintenance on their bike.

Belts are less efficient than chains, and if set up improperly are much more likely to come off.

I'll stick with chains.

Sizzle-Chest 02-11-08 11:33 PM

a belt will never do this to you . . . http://sheldonbrown.com/images/fing-.jpg


then again, neither will a chain, unless you stick your fingers in the bite.

ralphm2k 02-12-08 09:20 AM

So remember kids, lobster claws are NOT a substitute for bike chains.

gz_ 02-14-08 04:35 PM

More intelligent discussion in the Touring section:
http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=388076

Metricoclock 02-14-08 05:10 PM

i want to tinker and build a belt driven cvt system for a drive train now....

wroomwroomoops 02-14-08 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by gz_ (Post 6166828)
More intelligent discussion in the Touring section:
http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=388076

I read that thread. It reminded me of my ex-colleague Kimmo who has a collection of vintage (and some not-so-vintage) motorbikes. He told me he positively hates his belt-driven bike, and how the belt lasts much less than the chains on the other bikes.

By the way; in an enclosed environment (no dirt), a chain can last pretty damn long. Like, hundreds of thousands kilometers.

GattMood 02-14-08 05:37 PM

I'll personally stick with the tried and true chain drive system. This seems like a gimmick

wroomwroomoops 02-14-08 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Sizzle-Chest (Post 6149873)
a belt will never do this to you . . . then again, neither will a chain, unless you stick your fingers in the bite.

The belts we're talking about here are pretty un-stretcheable. So I guess such a belt, if it's tensioned right, might not cut your finger off, but it very well may squish it nicely. Any volunteers to try?

frankstoneline 02-14-08 05:39 PM

just what i need, rubber bands on my bike.

yonderboy 02-14-08 05:48 PM

Why have a belt, when you can have a shaft?

http://www.dynamicbicycles.com/chainless/index.php

http://www.dynamicbicycles.com/admin/bikes/l161908.jpg

wroomwroomoops 02-14-08 05:57 PM

^^^Apparently, those have a terrible transmission efficiency. Hardly anything beats the good ole chain in that respect.

That said, shaft drive is probably the most dirt-resistant transmission of them all.


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