ot: meds
 

a few of you know I pay a little more than 200 a week on prescription meds because i have seizures.
it makes riding brake less even more fun sometimes .

anyway i just found out i get my drugs free. that is all. :D:D:D:D

Nice man.
I hope the government is paying somehow.
I need some free healthcare right now. I need a procedure done that my insurance refuses to pay for and i sure dont have 10 grand for :mad:

nah johnson and johnson is paying direct.
according to the government i am not disabled.
unknown conditions, no short term memory and seizures and scarring on my brain means i cant drive or operate machinery but i should still be able to work

$800 extra bucks a month. Sweet. Sucks that you have seizures though. Is this something that naturally developed or did you suffer some sort of brain damage?

My roommate spends that much on meds a week, if you count marijuana.

But yeah, glad you get your stuff for free, now you can spend it on more important things:

BIKE COMPONENTS.

There is no FREE health care. SOmebody is paying. If you want charity go beg on the street.

Save up your $10,000, shouldn't take long.

Glad to hear it. I found out recently that my asthma medication, at least in its current form, will be banned at the end of this year. I wonder what's going to happen.

nobody is really sure. because i am not epileptic, not sensitive to lights, but i am sensitive to noise. they think it might have been viral because i have scars on my brain but none of the others markers for viral
but i did nasty high temp for several days they really only know as much about the seizures as they do because i ad several while in a mri machine.

Being conservative isn't a hipster trend, kick this scum bag off!

But seriously, paying through taxes is so much better than paying direct. Why should the government put a dollar sign on health? Its not right. Everyone should get the same treatment, rich, poor, white, or black. It makes no sense to have the rich run off with great health care, and the poor are left without anything to die. Its a shame.

God Bless Canada.

Now can US citizens emigrate to Canada and become citizens for their healthcare? :lol:

Yes. More than likely. Floodgate is open.

I dont **** with meds anymore, but i should.

B.S. The problem is you are paying a fortune for health care when you may be at very, very, very low risk. While people at very,very high risk pay the same amount through taxes.

Everyone should get the same treatment for their dollar. You pay on dollar, you get one dollar worth of service, white, black, rich, or poor.

I've been to the hospital in Canada, in Montreal to be exact. I left hobbling on my broken leg after 13 hours waiting with no service. Thank God I was only a short drive from the U.S.A.

Oh? So you mean to say you came to a country you don't live in, and lost out on the benefits you didn't pay for? No Way!

Let me guess, next you want to be given free money for entering the country?

The problem is that usually the people who are at very low risk are the ones with money. The poor people who can't afford proper health care are the ones that lose. Why should their life be worth less than the next? A country that moves together, gains together. I'm no socialist, don't get me wrong, I believe in free enterprise and minimal taxing. But when it comes to subsidized healthcare, its more than dollars and cents, its more than 'whats mine is mine', its human life man. Why should someone get cancer treatment because they have money? Is a poor man's life not worth it? Is he deemed worthless because he has no insurance company standing behind him paying off all his health care costs?

Good thinking. Maybe we should take all the people who are at risk for disease and put them in camps somewhere where they can't pollute the gene pool.

And only in a country where all citizens are in it together is there any kind of motivation to have public preventative / anti-obesity / social medicine efforts (assuming that's what you're implying here). Preventative medicine is the number one way to save money with healthcare, but most health care plans won't even help members with smoking cessation programs, because they're most likely going to be on someone else's plan when they come down with emphysema or cancer.

Personally, I wouldnt mind spending more on taxes so that everyone could have healthcare. Dunno why. Guess Im not a ******nozzle.

Anyway, anecdotal evidence of the Canadian healthcare system doesnt mean much. I got taken care of quite promptly when I went in to get stitches. Infact, they treated me before they asked about my insurance, which some dickheads at the hospital here (Eastern Maine Medical, I got there lots. Its about a 50/50 chance whether you get treatment before filling out forms, even if you bleed on them.) had the gall to do when I came with no skin on the back of my ear and dirt literally ground into the entirety of the right side of my face. So everyone is going to have good and bad experiences. I'd prefer that atleast everyone have the option to go to a hospital and not be put into debt for years because of it.

Your wife told me about the sex change plans a while back. Thought she was joking...

A person's choice is a person's choice. But you have to see past that, we're talking about DEATH. Its not like its something like 'people who smoke should not be able to use my tax dollars', its saying 'people who smoke should either get rich, or die'. The thinking is completely bunk.

why do you post **** like this?

follow the money

When i inverse my penis into a vagina ill be sure to give you first shot at it.

:( i ken hav sloppy seconds?

ahemp what asthma meds are you on? i recently just stopped taking advair and albuterol cold turkey. i feel great about it.

I'm a health professional. I trained in the UK, worked for the National Health Service and now work in public health care in Australia.

Private health care for all leaves behind the people who need it most. After ten years as a nurse I have met, possibly 3 patients who have a non-welfare income and standard of living. The more disabled the person, the lower the standard of living and income.

I am shocked that health care cost so much in the USA. Honestly, I don't know why you're not out in the streets, rioting. Why hasn't this caused a revolution?

This is not a p*ss-taking or sarcastic post. I genuinely want to know why this sh*t is tolerated.

maybe if people start rioting insurance will start covering birth control. that'd be nice.

Honestly? Those most in a position to fix the "problem" have healthcare. As selfish as it may sound, i'm too happy with the system to riot. i'm in a situation where my company pays a sizeable portion of my ppo plan (i think i pay thirty bucks a month out of my pay, pre tax). If i get sick/hurt, i go to a doctor/hospital. I don't know anyone without health insurance; if my friends get sick/hurt, they go to a doctor/hospital. I believe this is the issue with the majority of americans-- most americans are insured. If you're a student, your university pays health insurance and adds the remainder to your tuition. If you're employed, your job (in most cases) also subsidizes your insurance. If you're unemployed, you get medicare. I don't really get how people can go about not having health insurance in the us. Working at a supermarket gets you health benefits for christ's sake...
The reason healthcare costs so much here is, obviously, because our system was set up to nurture the best possible medical environment. Scroll up to maddyfish's post, and you'll see what can potentially happen when socialist healthcare is implemented.
The reason no one's rioting is, there's not really a reason to.

It does.
*ed: Apparently, some don't. My girlfriend's does, however. Look into Blue Cross/Blue Shield, if you have the option.

some places do/some dont.
mine didnt. but when i lived in Oklahoma the state actually covered birth control for men and women, Alabama doesn't. but then there is a stereotype of people being barefoot and pregnant here. ......... frigging bible belt

we don't riot because they sell us televisions and tell us we're happy.

Actually, due to the current economy a lot of places like supermarkets, hardware stores, and large corporate retailers in general are cutting hours back to sub 30 hours a week so they don't have to pay for healthcare. My best friend owes the local hospital thousands because his hours were cut and he lost his insurance a week before he got f'ed up in a crash. I get healthcare through the college system though, I thank god for that.

Not trying to instigate, but this is simply way off. Things simply do not need to cost nearly as much as we pay for them in our system. Look at how little the same procedures and medications cost elsewhere in the world, and you'll be astonished. We don't get the "best" care, we just get the priciest. It's reflected in our health quality, which falls behind other countries that spend way less. Leaving aside anecdotes about "this one time" and referring to meaningful statistics, the WHO puts us waaaay behind the rest of the pack, with paradise nations like Slovenia for company.

Why? Much of it has to do with hospitals needing to cover their own losses in the face of millions of uninsured emergency room visits. All those uninsured folks out there with zero preventative care are walking liabilities, and the rest of us end up paying for it in our insurance premiums. There's also a mysterious accounting circus between health care providers and insurers. We insured folks generally don't pay directly, so we're fairly insensitive to prices that would otherwise seem ridiculous; if there's no official oversight, any sensible business would see this as a profitable opportunity. Unlike a lot of idealistic, left-wing propaganda, the comparative disadvantages of our health care system are in abundant evidence, and there are plenty of other countries setting the example for better health care. Seems we'd rather dump our dollars into business and politicians than into actual health care.