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Can I Tack Weld This?

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Old 03-14-08 | 05:40 PM
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Can I Tack Weld This?

I want to convert a bike to a fixed gear and was going to buy a pre-built wheel with a flip-flop hub however someone suggested that instead I should just get a wheel and tack weld the cog onto the hub. Is this even possible? I've never heard anything like this however to get a wheel with a flip flop it would cost around $150 and to tack weld an existing wheel it would only cost about $10. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 03-14-08 | 05:43 PM
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How would you weld a steel cog to an aluminum hub?
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Old 03-14-08 | 05:44 PM
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You could weld it if you really needed to I suppose. You would never be able to change the cog and you would always have a little concern about the welds cracking. You could jb weld it too.

You could get a wheel for less than $150. You can get a wheelset with cog and lockring for $110 shipped from bike island so there must be some good deals on rear wheels out there. Check craigslist.

edit: didnt really think about the actual welding. I'm not so sure you would want to do that.
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Old 03-14-08 | 06:08 PM
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If they're both of the same metal, then yes, it's possible.
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Old 03-14-08 | 06:12 PM
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Just buy a new wheelset for the sake of your fate.
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Old 03-14-08 | 06:20 PM
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just Rotafix it! if you use a break it will never slip!
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Old 03-14-08 | 07:12 PM
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just Rotafix it! if you use a break it will never slip!
Brake.

Next. They need to be the same metal.

Next. I got a crappy wheelset (New Alex 450's) WITH a 14 tooth no name cog, and no name hubs off ebay for ~$90 shipped.
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Old 03-14-08 | 07:24 PM
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besides bikeisland is there a site that sells inexpensive rear wheels?
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Old 03-14-08 | 07:25 PM
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similar-ish question... i saw a fixed mtbr the other day at a light and it looked like his cog was bolted on, what's the deal with that?
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Old 03-14-08 | 07:27 PM
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ah, i'm dumb, probably disc hubs eh?

edit: https://www.63xc.com/jasom/milldisc.htm
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Old 03-14-08 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EivlEvo
Brake.

Next. They need to be the same metal.

Next. I got a crappy wheelset (New Alex 450's) WITH a 14 tooth no name cog, and no name hubs off ebay for ~$90 shipped.
I have that exact same wheelset, ($100 @ www.fixedgearfreak.com) except I took it to our high end LBS, and let the wheelsmith work on them for an afternoon. ($50 for both wheels)
now when I ride the wheels make a sort of "ringing" sound when I get up to speed, and they seem MUCH stiffer, and it feels like it takes less effort to hold speed.

could be all in my head, but I like those wheels, especially after the wheelsmith tuned them up.
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Old 03-14-08 | 08:10 PM
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I've welded up a few old road freewheels (kept the lock-ring, screw on gear and ditched the rest) and loc-tite'd them back onto old hubs. They tend to fail at the worst possible time. Also welded up an old bmx freewheel, never rode it hard, just something to play around with while stuck in Alaska for a couple months.

Basically, you are better off getting a $20 track cog, $2 bb lockring, some loctite and doing some roto-fixin'.
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Old 03-14-08 | 08:25 PM
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A friend welded the freewheel of his cassette, and then welded the cassette to the hub, and he's ridden it pretty hard for quite some time now, and it's been fine......super super cheap too! But not visually pleasing.
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Old 03-15-08 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by K_phomma
Just buy a new wheelset for the sake of your fate.
Agreed
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Old 03-15-08 | 12:47 PM
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ROTAFIX! Jeez. This shouldn't even be a question anymore.

Welding AL to Steel? Not sure if it's possible or not, but it's certainly not allowed in structural applications. W/O a brake, I wouldn't recommend it.
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Old 03-15-08 | 12:59 PM
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Are you shure that person was talking about cog to hub(wich is just stupid) or welding up a freehub(disabling the mechanism inside the hub by means of JB or brazing)
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Old 03-15-08 | 01:08 PM
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Certainly possible. Though his description was rather vague
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Old 03-15-08 | 02:10 PM
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Mean't the OP
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Old 03-15-08 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by j0e_bik3
I have that exact same wheelset, ($100 @ www.fixedgearfreak.com) except I took it to our high end LBS, and let the wheelsmith work on them for an afternoon. ($50 for both wheels)
now when I ride the wheels make a sort of "ringing" sound when I get up to speed, and they seem MUCH stiffer, and it feels like it takes less effort to hold speed.

could be all in my head, but I like those wheels, especially after the wheelsmith tuned them up.
Yeah... I mean, I have no complaints. Its my townie so not like Im track racing with them. They get the job done.
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Old 03-15-08 | 04:47 PM
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Braze it. Solder.
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Old 03-15-08 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Build your own
Mean't the OP
So did I. Miscommunication ftw.
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