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FixedonColorado 03-27-08 08:51 PM

picked up a capo. upgrade time!!
 
i have been on a waiting list for a 59cm pista concept frame for a while. i have still been eyeing the cannondale capo and the other day i randomly found a 58cm on c-list. i compaired the specs and found the 58 capo to be a tad larger than the 59 concept. turned out to be really clean and a good deal so i bought it. i figured theres a boatload of sick concepts out there and i have yet to see a really nice capo, so my build begins! the guy chopped and flopped the oem drops on it, switched those out for some gold risers and clear oury's. then i put on some neon pink and yellow look carbon pedals that my dad donated to the project (coolest pedals iv ever seen lol). the next thing to go has to be these wheels! im selling my converted bianchi road bike thats too small for me to by best friend and he wants the capo wheels for it. originally i was thinking id replace them with some bright colored deep v's laced to paul hubs to go with these pedals im in love with, but i just found a set of brand new american classic 420 wheels locally for a killer deal. what do you guys think? paul/deep v's or 420's?

spacehippo 03-27-08 09:02 PM

it's your bike, do what you want. those capo frames are awesome though.

FixedonColorado 03-27-08 09:10 PM

its my bike? really? hehe jk. ya the frame is nice! basically everything else looks cheesy, im sure to keep the price down but that way i can gradually make it exactly the way i want but still have a functional bike till then. does anyone have experience with the american classic 420 wheelset? i found some for half off retail

FixedonColorado 03-27-08 09:56 PM

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drainyoo 03-27-08 10:01 PM

I purchased a Red Capo frameset as well and I'm picking it up tomorrow. I pretty much have all the components ready to go on, just need to have my wheels built this weekend and pick up a Miche crankset. I should have her all done by next weekend.

Post some pics of your Capo when you're done.

FixedonColorado 03-27-08 10:20 PM

nice! mine is black, i like the red ones better. ill just have to get it powdercoated this summer :-). what parts did you go with for your wheel build? i will definitely get pictures as soon as i get some wheels back on it.

drainyoo 03-28-08 08:11 AM

DT Swiss RR 1.2 rims, DT spokes, Phil Wood hubs.

wallah 06-14-08 01:51 PM

Capo Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drainyoo (Post 6420155)
DT Swiss RR 1.2 rims, DT spokes, Phil Wood hubs.


Hey I am interested in what you chose to upgrade your Capo. What cranks did you get...The Miche Advanced look very nice....I don't know much about high quality single speed stuff. How about hubs. Any detailed info on Capo upgrades is appreciated.

Thanks
Steve
California

drainyoo 06-14-08 02:07 PM

Wallah, I bought just the frameset and built it up. I got the Miche Advanced cranks, they are great. You can get them on ebay brand new for around $180. The wheelset is the only place I really spent more money. I got the RR 1.2 rims laced to Phil Wood hubs. Great wheelset. I'm actually thinking of changing them though cause I want to ride my bike to work and I'm worry someone will try and steal the PW hubs.

You can see pics on my flickr page. These were taken when I first built it up as a singlespeed but now it's fixed. No rear brake and a Rolls saddle.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yearoft...7604422438423/

robotkiller 06-14-08 02:49 PM

I've been having fun upgrading mine. I'm not a fan of the white fork though. Either way, it's a good light framset and I really like it.

Repost from the "show your bike" thread

http://robotkiller.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p426537455-5.jpg

xiamsammyx 06-14-08 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FixedonColorado (Post 6418333)
what do you guys think?

your gaudy build already makes me nauseous and i havent even seen pictures yet.

mander 06-14-08 04:05 PM

I love that frame, too bad about the integrated headset but I wish more track frames came "road ready" with brake holes, bottle bosses and that kinda good stuff.

diff_lock2 06-15-08 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mander (Post 6881803)
I love that frame, too bad about the integrated headset but I wish more track frames came "road ready" with brake holes, bottle bosses and that kinda good stuff.

You can always attach bottles to you seat post. Whats wrong with an integrated headset?

TR909 06-15-08 07:07 AM

Seriously, what is wrong with an integrated headset. The headset on my capo hasn't given me any grief yet and I don't expect it to. The pista concept has one and people are falling over themselves to get one. Has anyone here actually had a spectacular integrated headset failure? I can only really see that happening while doing tarck tricks and even then, you'd have to be a lil dense to be doing tricks that could blow up your headset on a carbon fork anyway.

As far as longevity, I don't think too many of us will keep our bicycles long enough for an integrated to "destroy" a frame anyway. I know I'll be hit with upgraditis long before my headset explodes through my headtube!

peabodypride 06-15-08 07:41 AM

sorry to be the debbie downer but I think C-dale is full of crap saying this is supposed to be designed off of the 90s track frame.

cc700 06-15-08 08:48 AM

i think they may just mean the color scheme is designed from one.

na975 06-15-08 08:53 AM

i'd buy a concept over a crapo any day..

idiq 06-15-08 11:48 AM

Go for the 420 Tracks! They're going to be so much lighter then your deep Vs, and they look great. I have some sprint 350's on my road bike and I absolutely love them. A/C was taking backorders on the 420 Tracks last January otherwise I would have picked up some then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TR909 (Post 6884407)
Seriously, what is wrong with an integrated headset. The headset on my capo hasn't given me any grief yet and I don't expect it to. The pista concept has one and people are falling over themselves to get one. Has anyone here actually had a spectacular integrated headset failure? I can only really see that happening while doing tarck tricks and even then, you'd have to be a lil dense to be doing tricks that could blow up your headset on a carbon fork anyway.

As far as longevity, I don't think too many of us will keep our bicycles long enough for an integrated to "destroy" a frame anyway. I know I'll be hit with upgraditis long before my headset explodes through my headtube!

The main "claim" of the failure with an integrated headset (drop-in) is that the headset cups sit on a lip in the frame, and if stressed, the lips could "give-in" resulting in a useless frame. Personally, I like my integrated headset, it's easy as hell to install (mine didn't require a press, the cups just set right in) and they offer numerous options for stack height, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mander (Post 6881803)
I love that frame, too bad about the integrated headset but I wish more track frames came "road ready" with brake holes, bottle bosses and that kinda good stuff.

That's the difference between an actual track bike and a fixed-gear with road geometry. Most of the major manufacturers essentially offer a fixed-gear with road bike geometry. If you're buying an actual track bike, there is no need for brake holes, or bottle bosses, as it's supposed to be ridden strictly on the velodrome. As compared to the fixed-gear road bikes vs. track bikes, the track as a much steeper geometry, namely the head-tube. A 74-75 degree headtube is much more 'track like' whereas a 73-degree headtube is typically seen on road bikes.

bdfresh 06-15-08 12:26 PM

CAPO OWNERS/Others who know-What do you guys do to protect the Capos dropouts? I meen they are aluminum correct? I had a Bianchi Fremont, that had steel plates riveted in the dropouts to protect them, as does the Pista Concept, how do you protect hte Capos? just wondering (don't have a capo but curious)

G60 06-15-08 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cc700 (Post 6884735)
i think they may just mean the color scheme is designed from one.

incorrect.

TTM 06-15-08 02:03 PM

I'm trying to get ahold of a 54cm black 2008 bike.. anyone selling or know of a lbs that stocks one?
see my thread http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=430053

mander 06-15-08 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diff_lock2 (Post 6885400)
You can always attach bottles to you seat post. Whats wrong with an integrated headset?

I just like keeping bottles where God intended them to go. :) Everything I dislike about integrated headsets can be found in Chris King's well-known internet article. I won't rehash that here, but someone interested in the arguments might want to google it. It's nice that different options are available for people with different tastes. I just wish the capo suited mine in this regard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by idiq (Post 6885400)
That's the difference between an actual track bike and a fixed-gear with road geometry. Most of the major manufacturers essentially offer a fixed-gear with road bike geometry. If you're buying an actual track bike, there is no need for brake holes, or bottle bosses, as it's supposed to be ridden strictly on the velodrome. As compared to the fixed-gear road bikes vs. track bikes, the track as a much steeper geometry, namely the head-tube. A 74-75 degree headtube is much more 'track like' whereas a 73-degree headtube is typically seen on road bikes.

Road amenities are certainly not the difference between an actual track bike and a fixed gear with road geometry, as bosses, eyelets and brake holes do not affect a bike's geometry. Because I like options, I like the idea of a track bike with road amenities and so i like the cdale track frame (It's arguably pretty road-ish anyway, but I find internet discussions of tarck geometry uninteresting and so I will leave it at that).

idiq 06-16-08 04:20 AM

Please don't incorrectly misconstrue what I say, I'll leave it at that.

peabodypride 06-16-08 09:55 AM

I just don't see the similarities in the Capo and the old Track at all. The front end is needless-to-say radically different, the geometry seems way different (part of the beauty of the old Track was how acute the rear triangle was), even the paint is different.... bah humbug.

TR909 06-16-08 10:20 AM

I believe they are referencing the Major Taylor track model and not the vaunted early 90's track models with steeper geometry and standard headset.

http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4PRT.html


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