In his defense, it isnt hard to get the price of a complete build up that high, and the frames are really nice. I love mine and I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesnt. Granted I got a deal on mine used, but I would have payed for a new one if I had to.

Formula? They're Campagnolo NR. I think you're spending too much time on the Internets taking jerk lessons. :)

Anyhow, that's my track wheelset; my street wheelset are DAs to OPs and that wasn't exactly cheap to get handbuilt locally. Throw in the Deda Pista stuff, the Rolls, Phil BB, and a good crankset + Phil cog and you get up there, notice I said "near".

Thanks for all the compliments.

I've got one. Frame and fork = $600. I've got mostly run-of-the-mill components; probably spent around a grand total? I dunno. Velocity Aeros and Miche Primato hubs, chop-n-flop bars. A lot of the parts I just transferred over from my old conversion fixie. Here's a pic:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2203/...0444b3ceab.jpg

These frames have been going for like $350 on ebay lately, thats a pretty good deal.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...h/mybike-1.jpg
Mine, though it has the stock fork back and flop/chops now.
I love it, and they can be found cheaper by way of ebay/used etc.
my total is running right around 800 I think.

OP, hope you can stand the wait. First they were expected to arrive late Jan/early Feb, then late Feb/early March, and now May which by the Italian calendar must mean Christmastime.

how often on ebay? not seeing any.

Not super frequently, just keep your eyes peeled. I got mine used from a forum member, thats another place to look. Just out of curiostity, what drew you to the bare knuckle, it seems like you have little prior experience with fixed gear/track bikes (I hope you arent offended, and correct me if I'm wrong)

I have a Bareknuckle as well. I like it a lot, rides nice, it's pretty stiff and responsive. The paint is a shame though, it chips so easily. http://velospace.org/files/DSC_2949.JPG

If i had a dollar for everytime someone typed this...

he forgot to mention vertical compliance

new rule: if you don't weigh +200lbs or hold 30mph for at least a quarter of a minute, the phrase "stiff and responsive" cannot be typed.

Hold 30 for 15 seconds? What gear ratio are we talking here?

My math is rusty... you're talking about 15 seconds right?

Thanks for the license, but I think I would use whatever terms I wanted to even if I didn't weigh 200+, or could hold 30 for less time than it takes me to button my fly after I take a piss.

Many of us in this forum could meet at least one of your rather arbitrary criteria. Who made you the language sheriff of the internet anyway?

Well he didn't specify, so I s'pose it can be in whatever gear you like. Freewheeling I can get er up to 48 for a couple of minutes downhill. Even if we assume he's talking fixed in a normal street gear though, I fail to see what the ability to spin fast has to do with having the ability to gauge frame stiffness. I'm more likely to notice flex mashing up a hill at 6mph than I am spinning downhill or on a flat, and if you can't spin smoothly, you can't hold top speed, so not only is it an ariitrary measure, it's the basss ackward one.

ha, i doubt anyone will notice a lack stiffness holding any kinda of speed for 15seconds unless they are spinning at some crazy cadence and pedal square...

you wanna talk about stiff then talk about some kind of standing start...

Try spinning 130rpm sometime on a fixed gear with a square stroke and let me know how that works out. ;)

i know how it would work out. on a frame that isn't really stiff they gonna bounce all over the place and probably get scared and slow down at about 130rpm.
one of my bikes has a pretty soft fork and unless i spin perfectly smooth when the cadence gets high the bike starts wanting to bounce. so i gotta crouch down, be real light on my hands and really concentrate on spinning a circle...or shift gears...ha...that happens quite a bit faster than 130rpm though.

blah blah blah pompous dickholery blah blah blah.

If i had a dollar for every time someone was being an dick on this forum...

Wait a sec. I forgot to mention it's vertical compliance. blah.

Guys, I think we are all missing the issue here. Someone with the user name jessicat88 is posting.

so, she's probably a sexy 19 or 20 year old babe.

not mine...but I wish it was
http://velospace.org/files/bike1copy.jpg

that green bk is awesome.

i love mine, it spent more than i should have, but it was worth it.

how many track bikes (track specific, not the relaxed geos, although they may well be pretty stiff as well) aren't stiff and responsive?

sadly I do weigh about 210 these days...