Haha, do I need the testicles that presumably come with the sack, or just the scrotum?
Good lord.

I dunno. I tend to leave my bike locked up until I'm ready to go.

+2 (balls)

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...pony_41633.jpg



Really, does the type of bike matter?

And the idea of excessive force is laughable. I told the cops point blank what I did and they had no issue with it. If it was possible, I would gladly pay for a one way ticket to your town, then you can hold him firmly and give him a stern talking to when you catch him trying to ride away on your little pony bike.

The kind of bike doesnt matter all that much, I'm just curious (still waiting to know what you assaulted this "hipster" over), and regardless of what the cops said was ok doesnt make it any more acceptable in my mind.
And how on earth did you know I ride a "my little pony" whip?!?!?! thats a bit creepy.

Really? Is this argument happening? I would have killed that kid. Even if it meant getting beat down by bouncers. **** him.

yeah this argument is happening. I'm surprised so many people put their bikes on these ridiculous pedestals. I dont like people jacking my stuff as much as the next guy, but really? violently dealing with a situation is pretty low. I mean, the OP couldnt have said something when the dude walked up next to him to grab the bike, or just grabbed his bike as the guy was picking it up...seems excessive.

I just fail to see the benefits of taking a chance? Why get it right on the second try? Choke the loser out, get your bike back, and you're solid.

SWEET!

I caught a kid (literally) trying to steal my car once...I grabbed him by the throat and pulled him out of the car and wedged him between the door and windshield, he tried to fight me off until he saw me flick out my folding knife and delicately place it by his reproductive organs. He calmed down quite a bit after he realized I was serious about castrating him. His buddy took off before anything happened to him. Unfortunately, since he did not actually start the car, the DA did not press charges.

If I caught someone stealing a lawn ornament off my property, you would have to physically restrain me from bashing his head in with a baseball bat. Same goes if I caught someone stealing my car or a flower from my garden.

Can't you wrap your head around the concept of property and entitlement? Its more than just the dollar value of something, its a universal principle. You just don't **** around with another person's things, and if you do, don't be surprised when your ass gets kicked.

It's idiots like you that keep the bad guys doing what they do, and let them think that they can get away with it all the time. Sadly, they usually do. Are you gonna fight back, or take it up the ass? Your call.

frank, I think most people see where you're coming from and agree in principle (remember, this is a discussion about an actual event, not moral ideals), but you're picking a bone with someone who clearly had good composure in the situation and dealt with it very reasonably, without self-glorification or gratuitous violence. You've either failed to understand the place for ethical debate or vainly deny that violence is an inescapable part of life. In this case, very mild violence was used to prevent theft and detain the dude till the cops came. This is more honorable than what you could expect from the vast majority of citizens. You also seem to ignore the role of malicious intent, which seems to be completely absent in this case of "violence".

Also, discussion of ethical absolutes can never completely jibe with the adrenaline-laden reality of experiences like these. That point that the thief wasn't even following standard I've-been-caught-so-time-to-run procedure (arguing that it was, in fact, his bike?!) makes it impressive that the confrontation was ended with no more than a throw-down.

Here is the bike....

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...uesday/123.jpg

Regardless of what you think constitutes "assualt" or "excessive", the cops on the scene didn't think so. If I had beaten the kid to a pulp, then an argument could be valid. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. I didn't try to strangle the guy, I only used enough force for him to realize that breathing is more important than fighting. Think whatever you'd like in your perfect world, but one day reality will set in.

Do you think that undercover security at stores should give a quick reprimand when they see someone slip an item into their pocket? No. They wait for them to make it outside so that when the case does go to court, the defendant is caught dead to rights. No excuses.

What a bunch of meat headed jerks.

Edit: not so much the OP but, Come on dude, grow up.

I seriously hope frankstone is just trolling, or this is seriously the stupidest thing I've read in the history of this incredibly stupid forum.

I don't think than even a peacenik like humancongareel could agree with this bull****.

Come on dude, get the point. :rolleyes:

if i caught somebody trying to steal my bike i would probably try to incur as much bodily harm on them as possible

Hell hath no fury like a man parted from his bike. Good job OP. The show of restraint was commendable. Unfortunately, I would probably go into a fury and my Schrade*edit (lost my schrade, Kershaw speed assist now)would find it's way to flesh a little too fast. I probably shouldn't carrry a knife...:o

What point?

Wow, sounds like you've run into one too many guys that were bigger than you, and it hasn't turned out in your favor.

I suggest you chill out. A lot.

that's awesome! what bar was it at? i live in nola as well.

Le bon temp on Magazine.

Score!

shouldv gotten it on video

Perhaps if somebody handled this kid a few years ago the way the OP did, he would have never had to see his bike nearly get stolen that night and this wouldn't be for debate. The kids parents didn't love him, I don't see why you should.

Awesome story.... You should have just locked him up with the chain since it was apparently "his" and left him there. Preferably somewhere good like on some train tracks.

I'm far from trolling. I think laying hands on someone is far from a reasonable solution to the problem at hand. Think what you like, but this forum is largely a giant pissing contest, so when some guy posts a story about choking down someone who tried to pick up his bike without saying something, I say it's excessive. Whats wrong with walking over as the dude is making for the bike, putting a hand around his arm and saying "so, I see you like my bike." If the occurance was in front of a bar and you had a friend present I would bet 99% of the time the kid would have let go of the bike, and tried to cover his ass in a quick fashion.

What color is the sky in your world?

Unless there is a clear attempt to conceal, they have to wait for the perpetrator to actually pass the register - the point of no return. Only then has a crime been committed. But their job is to prevent the loss, which is why they have the fancy title of Loss Prevention Investigators.

Letting someone walk off with your bike just so you can administer a mild beating is not the same.

you must live in a relatively safe, crime free area that is not unlike Mr Rogers Neighborhood. That would never work out in my city (chicago).

"hey there buddy. I see you like my bike..." ha - what a joke. you'd get stabbed with a ice pick in the stomach.

When somebody steals a bike, breaks into a garage, a gym locker, steals a wallet, or car prowls - they know this isn't a dept store with security. They know they are violating a person, an individual, a hard working man. In the back of every thief's mind is the real possibility that "I'm talking a BIG chance here of getting my ass kicked badly for what I'm about to do... but here I go anyway!". So, I don't feel a thing for somebody who took that chance and lost. They should've been raised better. They should've been schooled by hard knocks already. I know what's its like to be a victim of theft. It's maddening.

More power to you if you give the thief "street justice". Imagine what happens to them in the Middle East! Thieves are scum. Go work for a living.