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likeaHorse 04-14-08 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Brian (Post 6518119)
That would have landed the OP in jail, even for brandishing.

Not if he shot the theif and bouncers, and the only remaining witnesses agreed upon his alleby.

That would've landed the OP in Valhalla. Fsck Virgins, or hopscotch with Jesus, or the big Spaghetti bowl in the sky FSM heaven...

I'll take hot Viking lusty mead swilling vixens ftw. Valkyries, plus when you die odds are you get to listen to black or thrash metal instead of elevator music. Big plus there.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...acemaker-1.jpg

Bacchusbill 04-14-08 06:02 PM

Frank, your tenacity to defend the civil liberties of an accused theif is admirable. Not your argument of giving the benefit of doubt to the accused instead of to me, but your tenacity is admirable. Hopefully, you will keep that passion and not become jaded to real life as you grow up.


Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6517269)


I'm no lawyer, so I have little grounds to argue about felony or not, but I know that one time a friend of mine was asking his step father (a public defender) about the difference between larceny and theft, as he saw seemingly similar cases coming through when he worked as a clerk in the courthouse under different headings, and his step dad said that in MOST cases unless there is breaking and entering or forced entry or the stolen goods are of an excessive value, cases of theft get tried as larseny, which is a misdemeanor and has a penalty of something like 6 months in jail and or community service and house arrest.

correct.

holy run on sentence, batman!




Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6517269)


but I know that one time a friend of mine was asking his step father (a public defender) about the difference between larceny and theft, as he saw seemingly similar cases coming through when he worked as a clerk in the courthouse under different headings,....

true. His initial charge will have little bearing on what he is convicted of. Plea bargaining is a normal, everyday occurence.


Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6517269)


... and his step dad said that in MOST cases unless there is breaking and entering or forced entry or the stolen goods are of an excessive value, cases of theft get tried as larseny,...

Yep. Click on links provided in my last post to see what those values are in your state and mine.



Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6517269)


...which is a misdemeanor and has a penalty of something like 6 months in jail and or community service and house arrest.

fine. Convict him of a misdemeanor. I suspect that ONLY 6 months in the orleans parish jail system will be life changing, and I doubt he will steal a bicycle again.....


Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6517269)


...As much of a bummer as it is, to blanket someone grabbing an unlocked bike as a felon is misleading..

......so until he pleads down, can we call him an accused felon, as opposed to a convicted felon? Still, the label "felon" is justified.



Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6517269)


... I dont know if that is the case everywhere, but it's the explanation I was given...

It varies from state to state.


Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6517269)


....despite the fact the fellow was probably less than bright and a criminal nonetheless.

correct.

TheScientist 04-14-08 06:30 PM

What would you do if that guy was in UR base killin UR d00dz?

Brian 04-14-08 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by TheScientist (Post 6518699)
What would you do if that guy was in UR base killin UR d00dz?

Down south of you, we have lots more gunz.

jamey 04-14-08 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by TheScientist (Post 6518699)
What would you do if that guy was in UR base killin UR d00dz?

:roflmao:

Gurgus 04-14-08 07:14 PM

Good job, OP. I had my MTN bike and my first fixed gear conversion stolen out of my locked garage last summer. Both bikes were locked up in the garage and they were still stolen. This happened in the middle of the night while I was watching tv. Had I looked out my back door before going to bed, I'd have probably caught them in the act. I'm not a very violent person, but I would have like to have had the chance to catch them in the act.

To the folks saying the OP shouldn't have held the theif down, the hell with that!
Don't jack my ****e and I won't beat your ass, deal?

TheScientist 04-14-08 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Brian (Post 6518792)
Down south of you, we have lots more gunz.

Where? Provo... if so.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Brian 04-14-08 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by TheScientist (Post 6519029)
Where? Provo... if so.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hell no. I'm not po'.

lubes17319 04-14-08 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by likeaHorse (Post 6518257)
Not if he shot the theif and bouncers, and the only remaining witnesses agreed upon his alleby.

....or he coulda just capped ALL them, plus his buddy Colin. Done deal! :P

Igneous Faction 04-15-08 12:04 AM

I see where Frank's coming from, but it's a naive position. No one likes having the things the own taken from them.

Most people, upon witnessing someone walking off with something of theirs that they really like are going to respond by cracking the guy in the skull with whatever happens to be handy. I think that those who thieve have a general understanding that this is the kind of response they risk by acting so immorally.

TheScientist 04-15-08 05:52 PM

http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1208300778613.jpg

tinydr 04-15-08 06:21 PM

yeah, I'm back... you idiots provide too much amusement to stay away forever. I have to say I'm a little disappointed I didn't even get a profile infraction...

I'm not that thrilled about the throttling either... you let him walk 20 feet down Magazine with your bike? You sure you weren't looking for the thrill of subduing the guy post-bar? Don't get me wrong... stop the guy, put your hands on him to do so... but the hands around his throat part...?

Perhaps my favorite part of this thread is the laughable notion that NOPD are appropriate decision-makers when it comes to the use of force. Anyone who lives here or has lived here should be able to see the insanity in that idea.

And yes, OPP still has guys in tents, and in all likelihood, unless the guy knew no one at all in the city and had no local address whatsoever, he was out on bond the next evening (if not before that, some people manage to get out before the bond hearing), depending on whether he had priors. There was no violence involved, the bond would probably be fairly low.

Bacchusbill 04-15-08 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by tinydr (Post 6525246)
yeah, I'm back... you idiots provide too much amusement to stay away forever. I have to say I'm a little disappointed I didn't even get a profile infraction...

I'm not that thrilled about the throttling either... you let him walk 20 feet down Magazine with your bike? You sure you weren't looking for the thrill of subduing the guy post-bar? Don't get me wrong... stop the guy, put your hands on him to do so... but the hands around his throat part...?

Perhaps my favorite part of this thread is the laughable notion that NOPD are appropriate decision-makers when it comes to the use of force. Anyone who lives here or has lived here should be able to see the insanity in that idea.

And yes, OPP still has guys in tents, and in all likelihood, unless the guy knew no one at all in the city and had no local address whatsoever, he was out on bond the next evening (if not before that, some people manage to get out before the bond hearing), depending on whether he had priors. There was no violence involved, the bond would probably be fairly low.

The terms throttling and choked are not terms that I used and aren't accurate. And yes, I let him walk about 3-4secs down the street to realize he made a mistake without yelling at him. When he first grabbed it, my first instinct was not that he was trying to steal it, but that he had in fact made a mistake.

And no. I am a 40 year old professional, with a too much to risk to be getting into post-bar fights. No thrill whatsoever.

And I wholeheartedly agree about the NOPD officers not being the best decision makers on excessive force.:D But in this case, it was a non issue, no decision to be made. I hadn't intended to injure the guy and I didn't. My bark was quite a bit worse than my bite.

import600 04-16-08 01:30 AM

I say **** the thief. Thats low as hell. Especially a bike. Possessions Possessions. **** capitalism yo! All that **** does is teach the young that if you want it and don't got the money, steal it.

tinydr 04-16-08 07:44 AM

True BB, you didn't say throttle or choke, but you did say you grabbed him by the throat; which does sound, to someone not there, a good bit like throttling (to some extent, using force to hold-onto someone with your hand across the front of their throat is likely to limit the their ability to breathe, although it may not involve intent to limit airflow); as opposed to holding someone by the back of their neck, which doesn't sound like throttling at all.

Clearly you were there and I wasn't though...

JACQU3S 04-16-08 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by import600 (Post 6527223)
I say **** the thief. Thats low as hell. Especially a bike. Possessions Possessions. **** capitalism yo! All that **** does is teach the young that if you want it and don't got the money, steal it.

Please tell me you're either trolling or 14.

willypilgrim 04-16-08 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6511789)
Haha, do I need the testicles that presumably come with the sack, or just the scrotum?
Good lord.



after this post i'm not gonna finish reading this thread, i can assume what the rest of it is.

it is hilarious, though, that when you feel you need to defend yourself, you try to speak eloquently and use 'proper' words, but other posts you're fittin to use some street slang.

it's the internet son.

BMonei 04-16-08 06:17 PM

What bike are we referring to here?

sdge 04-16-08 07:06 PM

Street Justice.

bja86 05-02-08 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by frankstoneline (Post 6511212)
was gripping him by the throat really necessary? I mean, sure he was trying to lift your bike, but that doesnt make it chill to grab him and throw him to the ground by his throat...thats assault, you should have just grabbed his shoulder and held on until the cops came.

are you kidding me.... F**k thieves

supercub 05-02-08 05:26 PM

All this macho postering is really lame. I fundamentally agree with FRANKSTONE.

And to the poster who claims that every person who prescribes to non-violence has lived a sheltered life, you need to consult some history books.

JACQU3S 05-02-08 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by supercub (Post 6626982)
All this macho postering is really lame. I fundamentally agree with FRANKSTONE.

And to the poster who claims that every person who prescribes to non-violence has lived a sheltered life, you need to consult some history books.

Thank you.

sp00ki 05-02-08 05:29 PM

i've seen too many instances of nonviolence used to veil cowardice.

solbrothers 05-02-08 05:32 PM

pix of said bike?

nice story dude!!

Bacchusbill 05-02-08 05:47 PM

Its back on page 2 or 3. Not the My little pony ride, but the other one.

As an update to this resurrected thread....I still haven't heard from the DA yet after nearly 3 weeks, which is what my attorney told me to expect. Who knows, maybe the cops drove him around the corner and let him go, or the DA just pled him down to lesser charge, figuring that they had better things to do than waste too much time on a bike thief. Either way, it certainly ruined his night and hopefully scared the SHIITE outta him.

fetch 05-02-08 05:48 PM

punch people in the face, always.

then pick em up from the ground, explain why they got their ass beat. buy lam3r a beer. win/win

SuperMario5459 05-03-08 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bacchusbill (Post 6509694)
dude takes off running, and Colin, MY BOY, 42, HALF this dudes age runs him down and drags him back to justice.

Tight hipster girl-pants probably slowed him down too much.

johnnyraja 05-04-08 05:00 AM

"Violence never solved anything except for conflict."

-Geoffrey Jellineck

mykrrrr 05-04-08 07:54 AM

nice.

seitenryu 05-04-08 07:30 PM

if I were stealing your bike I'd hope to get some milk and cookies at least.;)


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