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Originally Posted by Brian
(Post 6518119)
That would have landed the OP in jail, even for brandishing.
That would've landed the OP in Valhalla. Fsck Virgins, or hopscotch with Jesus, or the big Spaghetti bowl in the sky FSM heaven... I'll take hot Viking lusty mead swilling vixens ftw. Valkyries, plus when you die odds are you get to listen to black or thrash metal instead of elevator music. Big plus there. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...acemaker-1.jpg |
Frank, your tenacity to defend the civil liberties of an accused theif is admirable. Not your argument of giving the benefit of doubt to the accused instead of to me, but your tenacity is admirable. Hopefully, you will keep that passion and not become jaded to real life as you grow up.
Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6517269)
I'm no lawyer, so I have little grounds to argue about felony or not, but I know that one time a friend of mine was asking his step father (a public defender) about the difference between larceny and theft, as he saw seemingly similar cases coming through when he worked as a clerk in the courthouse under different headings, and his step dad said that in MOST cases unless there is breaking and entering or forced entry or the stolen goods are of an excessive value, cases of theft get tried as larseny, which is a misdemeanor and has a penalty of something like 6 months in jail and or community service and house arrest. holy run on sentence, batman!
Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6517269)
but I know that one time a friend of mine was asking his step father (a public defender) about the difference between larceny and theft, as he saw seemingly similar cases coming through when he worked as a clerk in the courthouse under different headings,....
Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6517269)
... and his step dad said that in MOST cases unless there is breaking and entering or forced entry or the stolen goods are of an excessive value, cases of theft get tried as larseny,...
Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6517269)
...which is a misdemeanor and has a penalty of something like 6 months in jail and or community service and house arrest.
Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6517269)
...As much of a bummer as it is, to blanket someone grabbing an unlocked bike as a felon is misleading..
Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6517269)
... I dont know if that is the case everywhere, but it's the explanation I was given...
Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6517269)
....despite the fact the fellow was probably less than bright and a criminal nonetheless. |
What would you do if that guy was in UR base killin UR d00dz?
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Originally Posted by TheScientist
(Post 6518699)
What would you do if that guy was in UR base killin UR d00dz?
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Originally Posted by TheScientist
(Post 6518699)
What would you do if that guy was in UR base killin UR d00dz?
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Good job, OP. I had my MTN bike and my first fixed gear conversion stolen out of my locked garage last summer. Both bikes were locked up in the garage and they were still stolen. This happened in the middle of the night while I was watching tv. Had I looked out my back door before going to bed, I'd have probably caught them in the act. I'm not a very violent person, but I would have like to have had the chance to catch them in the act.
To the folks saying the OP shouldn't have held the theif down, the hell with that! Don't jack my ****e and I won't beat your ass, deal? |
Originally Posted by Brian
(Post 6518792)
Down south of you, we have lots more gunz.
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Originally Posted by TheScientist
(Post 6519029)
Where? Provo... if so.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Originally Posted by likeaHorse
(Post 6518257)
Not if he shot the theif and bouncers, and the only remaining witnesses agreed upon his alleby.
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I see where Frank's coming from, but it's a naive position. No one likes having the things the own taken from them.
Most people, upon witnessing someone walking off with something of theirs that they really like are going to respond by cracking the guy in the skull with whatever happens to be handy. I think that those who thieve have a general understanding that this is the kind of response they risk by acting so immorally. |
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yeah, I'm back... you idiots provide too much amusement to stay away forever. I have to say I'm a little disappointed I didn't even get a profile infraction...
I'm not that thrilled about the throttling either... you let him walk 20 feet down Magazine with your bike? You sure you weren't looking for the thrill of subduing the guy post-bar? Don't get me wrong... stop the guy, put your hands on him to do so... but the hands around his throat part...? Perhaps my favorite part of this thread is the laughable notion that NOPD are appropriate decision-makers when it comes to the use of force. Anyone who lives here or has lived here should be able to see the insanity in that idea. And yes, OPP still has guys in tents, and in all likelihood, unless the guy knew no one at all in the city and had no local address whatsoever, he was out on bond the next evening (if not before that, some people manage to get out before the bond hearing), depending on whether he had priors. There was no violence involved, the bond would probably be fairly low. |
Originally Posted by tinydr
(Post 6525246)
yeah, I'm back... you idiots provide too much amusement to stay away forever. I have to say I'm a little disappointed I didn't even get a profile infraction...
I'm not that thrilled about the throttling either... you let him walk 20 feet down Magazine with your bike? You sure you weren't looking for the thrill of subduing the guy post-bar? Don't get me wrong... stop the guy, put your hands on him to do so... but the hands around his throat part...? Perhaps my favorite part of this thread is the laughable notion that NOPD are appropriate decision-makers when it comes to the use of force. Anyone who lives here or has lived here should be able to see the insanity in that idea. And yes, OPP still has guys in tents, and in all likelihood, unless the guy knew no one at all in the city and had no local address whatsoever, he was out on bond the next evening (if not before that, some people manage to get out before the bond hearing), depending on whether he had priors. There was no violence involved, the bond would probably be fairly low. And no. I am a 40 year old professional, with a too much to risk to be getting into post-bar fights. No thrill whatsoever. And I wholeheartedly agree about the NOPD officers not being the best decision makers on excessive force.:D But in this case, it was a non issue, no decision to be made. I hadn't intended to injure the guy and I didn't. My bark was quite a bit worse than my bite. |
I say **** the thief. Thats low as hell. Especially a bike. Possessions Possessions. **** capitalism yo! All that **** does is teach the young that if you want it and don't got the money, steal it.
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True BB, you didn't say throttle or choke, but you did say you grabbed him by the throat; which does sound, to someone not there, a good bit like throttling (to some extent, using force to hold-onto someone with your hand across the front of their throat is likely to limit the their ability to breathe, although it may not involve intent to limit airflow); as opposed to holding someone by the back of their neck, which doesn't sound like throttling at all.
Clearly you were there and I wasn't though... |
Originally Posted by import600
(Post 6527223)
I say **** the thief. Thats low as hell. Especially a bike. Possessions Possessions. **** capitalism yo! All that **** does is teach the young that if you want it and don't got the money, steal it.
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Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6511789)
Haha, do I need the testicles that presumably come with the sack, or just the scrotum?
Good lord. after this post i'm not gonna finish reading this thread, i can assume what the rest of it is. it is hilarious, though, that when you feel you need to defend yourself, you try to speak eloquently and use 'proper' words, but other posts you're fittin to use some street slang. it's the internet son. |
What bike are we referring to here?
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Street Justice.
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Originally Posted by frankstoneline
(Post 6511212)
was gripping him by the throat really necessary? I mean, sure he was trying to lift your bike, but that doesnt make it chill to grab him and throw him to the ground by his throat...thats assault, you should have just grabbed his shoulder and held on until the cops came.
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All this macho postering is really lame. I fundamentally agree with FRANKSTONE.
And to the poster who claims that every person who prescribes to non-violence has lived a sheltered life, you need to consult some history books. |
Originally Posted by supercub
(Post 6626982)
All this macho postering is really lame. I fundamentally agree with FRANKSTONE.
And to the poster who claims that every person who prescribes to non-violence has lived a sheltered life, you need to consult some history books. |
i've seen too many instances of nonviolence used to veil cowardice.
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pix of said bike?
nice story dude!! |
Its back on page 2 or 3. Not the My little pony ride, but the other one.
As an update to this resurrected thread....I still haven't heard from the DA yet after nearly 3 weeks, which is what my attorney told me to expect. Who knows, maybe the cops drove him around the corner and let him go, or the DA just pled him down to lesser charge, figuring that they had better things to do than waste too much time on a bike thief. Either way, it certainly ruined his night and hopefully scared the SHIITE outta him. |
punch people in the face, always.
then pick em up from the ground, explain why they got their ass beat. buy lam3r a beer. win/win |
Originally Posted by Bacchusbill
(Post 6509694)
dude takes off running, and Colin, MY BOY, 42, HALF this dudes age runs him down and drags him back to justice.
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"Violence never solved anything except for conflict."
-Geoffrey Jellineck |
nice.
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if I were stealing your bike I'd hope to get some milk and cookies at least.;)
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