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bikerdfresh 05-23-08 10:23 PM

Illegal
 
what states is it illegal to ride without brakes? I am going to college in Illinois and wondering if i'll be alright, i cant seem to dig anything up, anyone around Illinois Wesleyan (Bloomington/Normal) area that rides? Thanks guys again.

reedreeder 05-23-08 10:34 PM

does anywhere REALLY crack down on it? i rode brakeless all over oregon a few months ago, and saw tons of other brakeless bikes too.

dervish 05-23-08 10:51 PM

as long as your not doing any stupid **** you should be fine
just dont draw a bunch of attention to yourself by weaving through traffic and such

bikerdfresh 05-23-08 10:58 PM

sounds good to me. I just am getting the hang of riding a fixed gear, and have just my front brakes on both of my fixed gear bikes, and will soon want to take the front off both of them. THanks

Thetank 05-23-08 11:19 PM

just say you have a coaster brake if you get caught and then just skid to prove it.

lwkwafi 05-23-08 11:45 PM

I have never heard anything about needing a brake in illinois.
I have plenty of friends that ride brakeless in the CU. I guess if you are good for it, you can try it.

Tomo_Ishi 05-24-08 01:57 AM

Hey,

I think you don't get caught brake-less in Japan either. There are not enough cops around who are free enough to go off and arrest bikers. ... But I did get stopped for "bike-registration"; cop ain't checking for brakes. ... Personally, I don't think people around here knows what brake levers should look like, so you could fake it by pretending to grab at something when you see cops.

T

aekeroo 05-24-08 03:25 AM

"what do you mean I don't have any brakes? How did I just stop?"

nerdbot5000 05-24-08 03:30 AM

In Santa Cruz you need one operational brake (as opposed to a non operational one or something). I was stopped by a cop recently who warned me about it.

oldsprinter 05-24-08 05:29 AM

You need a brake in every state, although the cops in Tasmania don't really know about fixies yet, so you'll get away with it there. Queensland cops are the worst, so watch out.

You didn't ask about the territories - any plans to go through the ACT or NT?

Sin Titulo 05-24-08 07:04 AM

I think the cops in most cities are pretty clueless about people riding without traditional brakes.

craigmoyer 05-24-08 07:31 AM

i wouldnt worry about it, but why take them off? if you want to ride brakeless, just dont use your brakes.

Jabba Degrassi 05-24-08 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by craigmoyer (Post 6752495)
i wouldnt worry about it, but why take them off? if you want to ride brakeless, just dont use your brakes.

My guess is that's what he's doing right now, as a way of preparing himself for riding without a brake at all. I'm popping a front brake on my current project, but I intend to use it as an E-brake.

I may remove it eventually, I may not. I don't know. All I do know is it's going to be there for a pretty long time.

rickyaustin 05-24-08 11:11 AM

I still fail to understand why one would ride without brakes in traffic.

Jabba Degrassi 05-24-08 11:35 AM

It just looks cool okay.

diff_lock2 05-24-08 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by rickyaustin (Post 6753135)
I still fail to understand why one would ride without brakes in traffic.

The bike looks better without brakes.

furiousbob 05-24-08 12:46 PM

I seldom use the brake on my bike. I've only used it for those "oh-*****" moments which are also uncommon but they do happen.

Kabloink 05-24-08 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by rickyaustin (Post 6753135)
I still fail to understand why one would ride without brakes in traffic.

Some people have more fashion sense than common sense.

Live2Die 05-24-08 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by reedreeder (Post 6751659)
does anywhere REALLY crack down on it? i rode brakeless all over oregon a few months ago, and saw tons of other brakeless bikes too.

My roommate got a $60 ticket for brakeless in Eugene, and I know 2 guys who got tickets in portland. I think it's more if you are drawing attention to yourself cuz I've never had any issues and I know plenty of others who have not either.

doomkin 05-24-08 06:17 PM

no one in bloomington normal gives a ****. especially the cops. that said, over in peoria i've been ticketed for having too bright head lights and not any reflectors. needless to say it was totally bogus and i didn't pay squat.

drivers in central illinois don't know what a bicycle is. if you are going to ride in traffic, which is highly unadvisable in this part of our great nation, do so in a group - a large group! i can't tell you the number of times i've been nearly creamed by central illinois drivers. my first year with a fixed gear was terrible because i rarely got to get it out on longer rides and i eventually had to bring down a geared bike so i could go out on local club rides for the group protection.

don't assume people around here will stop for you. if it's you or them, they'll pick you and since there are almost no laws in this state about hitting cyclists, chances are they'll murder you then go home with a $200 ticket. don't give 'em an opportunity!

bikerdfresh 05-24-08 06:29 PM

^ you in Bloomington?

doomkin 05-24-08 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by bikerdfresh (Post 6754639)
^ you in Bloomington?

was in peoria. graduated a few weeks back.

to be honest, peoria was a crappy town. bloomington normal on the other hand looks even worse.

bikerdfresh 05-24-08 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by doomkin (Post 6754662)
was in peoria. graduated a few weeks back.

to be honest, peoria was a crappy town. bloomington normal on the other hand looks even worse.

how do you figure?

garagegirl 05-24-08 07:07 PM

How safe is it riding in town? I'll be moving to BN soon too, and I figured I'd be okay riding around downtown and the colleges.

bikerdfresh 05-24-08 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by garagegirl (Post 6754833)
How safe is it riding in town? I'll be moving to BN soon too, and I figured I'd be okay riding around downtown and the colleges.

going to school down there? Im headed to Illinois Wesleyan this fall for college.

rickyaustin 05-24-08 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by diff_lock2 (Post 6753405)
The bike looks better without brakes.

Then hang it on the wall.

bikerdfresh 05-24-08 07:37 PM

well if you wont be riding in the city where you are right next to cars, brakeless on a fixie is probabaly not a big deal at all.

xiamsammyx 05-24-08 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by bikerdfresh (Post 6754987)
well if you wont be riding in the city where you are right next to cars, brakeless on a fixie is probabaly not a big deal at all.

not being able to use your legs again because you couldnt stop your bike in time without a brake and crashed into a car that pulls out in front of you without warning causing you to brake your back is probably not a big deal at all.

doomkin 05-24-08 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by bikerdfresh (Post 6754787)
how do you figure?

because over the 4 years i spent in peoria i found myself in bloomington normal at least once a week for a variety of usually stupid reasons.

parties, sporting events, traveling through town and stopping for lunch, etc.

1. all the roads are bad. real bad. most of 'em are crushed limestone shards with a layer of tar sprayed over the top. literally a tire shredder.
2. no bike lanes/paths. occasionally you'll see a "bike route" sign around town but they're disconnected, run you through really bad neighborhoods and really busy streets with little to no shoulder.
3. cagers. cagers here are ignorant. drivers in chicago or the suburbs at least know to some extent that bicycles occasionally ride on the street. if they act like *******s, they do it on purpose because they don't want you there. drivers in southern and central illinois are just outright ********. they're unpredictable, they don't know how to drive around bicycles, and they are generally uneducated.

i'm all for commuting and riding around on the road - but there are plenty of places in america where riding on the street is still just too ridiculously dangerous to risk your life. when i'm at home in chicago i'll be the first guy to take a lane and ride down a street like i own it. when i was at school, you better believe i stuck entirely to small side streets and sidewalks everywhere i went and that wasn't often more than to and from class.

neverjared 05-24-08 11:08 PM

How do you ride without brakes?


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