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Old 05-27-08 | 10:54 PM
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I still can't skid consistently. I did about two today after an hour of messing around. I need some exercises maybe to work up to them or just some hints.
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Old 05-27-08 | 10:57 PM
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pretend you're humping the stem while simultaneously stopping pedaling.
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Old 05-28-08 | 06:14 AM
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pretend you are jamming your hip under the bars with your leg locked. Lean forward as far as you can.
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Old 05-28-08 | 06:36 AM
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it's common to not be immediately good at something. keep working on it. you'll get comfortable and blow through tires and in a few years you might be a good enough rider so that you'll rarely skid. it's kind of ironic.
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Old 05-28-08 | 06:38 AM
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Bullhorns and a low gear are easier to learn skids on.If you're trying to learn skids to be able to run brakeless i'd suggest you focus on skipping and fishtails.Longass "nuts to the stem" skids are useless in traffic.
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Old 05-28-08 | 06:42 AM
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pretend you're humping the stem while simultaneously stopping pedaling.
Brilliant!
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Old 05-28-08 | 09:22 PM
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Bullhorns and a low gear are easier to learn skids on.If you're trying to learn skids to be able to run brakeless i'd suggest you focus on skipping and fishtails.Longass "nuts to the stem" skids are useless in traffic.
What are and how do I do fishtails and skipping? Are the fishtails like what a car does when with low traction?
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Old 05-28-08 | 09:51 PM
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There's a how- to on skipping on sheldonbrown.com.I think there's info on fishtails and other stopping methods on fixedgear 101(there's a link on sheldons site).
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Old 05-28-08 | 10:53 PM
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I still can't skid consistently. I did about two today after an hour of messing around. I need some exercises maybe to work up to them or just some hints.
try leaning as far into the stem as possible, while pedaling, and lock your legs when you're ready; it doesn't matter how many pedal stokes you go through between the time your nuts hit the stem and you start skidding, as long as you can make a skid happen 1/1 times. trying to lean in while simultaneously locking your legs makes things a lot more difficult when you're first learning. eventually you'll feel comfortable initiating a skid before your weight is even fully shifted. - that's how i got it, at least...
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Old 05-29-08 | 12:35 PM
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Get used to riding with your weight shifted forward first, they start initiating skids. One new thing at a time, I say.

And if this sort of thing helps you: picture yourself doing it while you try -- imagine yourself in the position that you've seen other people in when they skid. (But I tend to be pretty visual when it comes to learning physical skills. YMMV.)
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Old 05-29-08 | 12:46 PM
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Get used to riding with your weight shifted forward first, they start initiating skids. One new thing at a time, I say.

And if this sort of thing helps you: picture yourself doing it while you try -- imagine yourself in the position that you've seen other people in when they skid. (But I tend to be pretty visual when it comes to learning physical skills. YMMV.)
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Old 05-29-08 | 03:45 PM
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pretend you're humping the stem while simultaneously stopping pedaling.
this is the best advice that i have heard on this forum since i have been here
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Old 05-29-08 | 09:04 PM
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I used the humping advice. I look like a ****** sack, but I can do them one hundred percent now when going at medium pace. I working on them going fast. The biggest surprise I found is that I'm ambidextrious with them. Is it possible to skid while just sitting?
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Old 05-29-08 | 09:25 PM
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Yes, and way more effective too! Takes some practice and mostly muscle memory, but you cna use your TT as some leverage for your rear leg as well.
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Old 05-29-08 | 11:41 PM
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What is TT?
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Old 05-29-08 | 11:44 PM
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Old 05-29-08 | 11:50 PM
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How do you unweight back wheel using tt. Or is it just brute force to skid sitting down.
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Old 05-29-08 | 11:50 PM
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i'd try to do it seated with just the forward jerking motion before jamming your knee trying to brace it on the top tube. it's more effective to slow down, but that's just because you have more weight over the rubber.
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Old 05-29-08 | 11:53 PM
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how do i start the jerking motion. Like throw body to stem motion but don't go to stem.
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Old 05-29-08 | 11:58 PM
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Make sure you have clips and straps or clipless pedals. Pulling up on the pedals seems to initiate a skid easier for me than pushing back. I have a friend who runs 39/16 and platforms and I can't skid on his bike, but I can skid on mine with clips and straps and 48/17.

Try pedaling for a bit with your body as far forward as you can get it. Then try locking up your legs. And watch a lot of youtube fixed videos and emulate. Then profit.
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Old 05-30-08 | 12:02 AM
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if you can lean all of your body forward of the bars, like in skid competitions, you'll get most of the weight off the rear wheel. this makes it really easy to lock the rear wheel but it requires good balance over the front wheel. you can lean too far forward, but you REALLY have to try to do that.
just don't use your brakes at any point, or you'll eat it.
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