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Eimei or Makino?

Old 06-10-08, 08:31 AM
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Eimei or Makino?

I am going to get a keirin frame and, these two brands are my favorites. SO which should I pick? Argue for which ever you like more or whatever. Thank you for helping an indecisive person out.
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Old 06-10-08, 08:34 AM
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the one that fits.
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the one that fits.
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Old 06-10-08, 08:49 AM
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I am assuming that both frames fit, and neither frame has rust, dents, nor significant paint damage.

If this is not the case, always buy the frame in better condition, regardless of label prestige. A dented Nagasawa is not worth the same as a pristine Bridgestone. Similarly, with regard to fit, the Panasonic that fits you is infinitely better for you than the Samson that is two sizes too small.

Of course, if they are equal in the above respects, the Eimei vs. Makino debate comes down to pure aesthetics. Makino has a more famous name, but is a bigger manufacturer. Eimei is a much smaller shop.

Do you want the frame that everyone knows, but more people have? Or the frame that gives you exclusivity at the price of a little anonimity?

How did you pick those two brands to be your favorites? They seem like pretty disparate choices.
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Old 06-10-08, 08:52 AM
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My friend has an Eimei that's my size. It's absolutely gorgeous to look at and a delight to ride. The fork looks like you can carry 2 katanas in it. I think the paint job is amazing, get one!
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Old 06-10-08, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by trelhak View Post
I am assuming that both frames fit, and neither frame has rust, dents, nor significant paint damage.

If this is not the case, always buy the frame in better condition, regardless of label prestige. A dented Nagasawa is not worth the same as a pristine Bridgestone. Similarly, with regard to fit, the Panasonic that fits you is infinitely better for you than the Samson that is two sizes too small.

Of course, if they are equal in the above respects, the Eimei vs. Makino debate comes down to pure aesthetics. Makino has a more famous name, but is a bigger manufacturer. Eimei is a much smaller shop.

Do you want the frame that everyone knows, but more people have? Or the frame that gives you exclusivity at the price of a little anonimity?

How did you pick those two brands to be your favorites? They seem like pretty disparate choices.
Actually I am looking at 2 bikes, they are the favorites of what I have seen, one is a Eimei and one is a Makino. (I am personally a fan of eimei and giro) But the Makino is WAY cheaper than the eimei, but the eimei is brand new. So its a decision between 200 dollars(as a college kid that can fed me for a month), and the bike I actually want.
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Old 06-10-08, 10:07 AM
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u won't notice the difference in either ..... so i say pista!

p.s makino imho
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Old 06-10-08, 10:54 AM
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///MAKINOOOOOOO!

dude is a world famous builder. it's like owning a san rensho that you can feel safe about riding on the street because your frame isn't a historical relic, yet!
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I personally don't like Makinos so much. not sure why. if you have the cash and like the paint job I'd take the new Eimei.
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Originally Posted by Saraneth View Post
the eimei is brand new. So its a decision between 200 dollars(as a college kid that can fed me for a month), and the bike I actually want.
Eimei. Keirin frames are retired for a number of reasons, but the number one reason is that it was involved in a crash. Now, chances are good that there was no real damage, but getting bashed at 40mph on a concrete track can't be good for a frame. 200 dollars is certainly worth not having to worry if some of the brazings got cracked in an impact.

Makino probably impresses your friends more, but, like you said, the Eimei is the one you actually want. When will you have the opportunity to buy a new one again?

...oh, you'll be racing this bike, right?
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Old 06-10-08, 02:04 PM
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Yeah, because racing lugged vintage steel for anything other than style points is totally advantageous over a modern frame option that isn't NJS approved.
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Old 06-10-08, 02:22 PM
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No, but racing a new (not vintage, just old-tech) lugged-steel frame whose geometry is specifically designed for track racing might have an advantage or two over a modern frame whose geometry is less racing-oriented and more geared toward the barrspinzing arrospok-and-riser crowd.
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