Eimei or Makino?
06-10-08 | 08:31 AM
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Master Pista
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From: Orlando/Clermont/Oviedo, FL
Bikes: Kilo TT, Serotta
Eimei or Makino?
I am going to get a keirin frame and, these two brands are my favorites. SO which should I pick? Argue for which ever you like more or whatever. Thank you for helping an indecisive person out.
06-10-08 | 08:49 AM
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I am assuming that both frames fit, and neither frame has rust, dents, nor significant paint damage.
If this is not the case, always buy the frame in better condition, regardless of label prestige. A dented Nagasawa is not worth the same as a pristine Bridgestone. Similarly, with regard to fit, the Panasonic that fits you is infinitely better for you than the Samson that is two sizes too small.
Of course, if they are equal in the above respects, the Eimei vs. Makino debate comes down to pure aesthetics. Makino has a more famous name, but is a bigger manufacturer. Eimei is a much smaller shop.
Do you want the frame that everyone knows, but more people have? Or the frame that gives you exclusivity at the price of a little anonimity?
How did you pick those two brands to be your favorites? They seem like pretty disparate choices.
If this is not the case, always buy the frame in better condition, regardless of label prestige. A dented Nagasawa is not worth the same as a pristine Bridgestone. Similarly, with regard to fit, the Panasonic that fits you is infinitely better for you than the Samson that is two sizes too small.
Of course, if they are equal in the above respects, the Eimei vs. Makino debate comes down to pure aesthetics. Makino has a more famous name, but is a bigger manufacturer. Eimei is a much smaller shop.
Do you want the frame that everyone knows, but more people have? Or the frame that gives you exclusivity at the price of a little anonimity?
How did you pick those two brands to be your favorites? They seem like pretty disparate choices.
06-10-08 | 08:52 AM
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From: Tallahassee
Bikes: Locally built track bike, Kona mtb, Giant Road Bike, Soon to be Surly LHT Tourer!
My friend has an Eimei that's my size. It's absolutely gorgeous to look at and a delight to ride. The fork looks like you can carry 2 katanas in it. I think the paint job is amazing, get one!
06-10-08 | 09:29 AM
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Master Pista
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From: Orlando/Clermont/Oviedo, FL
Bikes: Kilo TT, Serotta
I am assuming that both frames fit, and neither frame has rust, dents, nor significant paint damage.
If this is not the case, always buy the frame in better condition, regardless of label prestige. A dented Nagasawa is not worth the same as a pristine Bridgestone. Similarly, with regard to fit, the Panasonic that fits you is infinitely better for you than the Samson that is two sizes too small.
Of course, if they are equal in the above respects, the Eimei vs. Makino debate comes down to pure aesthetics. Makino has a more famous name, but is a bigger manufacturer. Eimei is a much smaller shop.
Do you want the frame that everyone knows, but more people have? Or the frame that gives you exclusivity at the price of a little anonimity?
How did you pick those two brands to be your favorites? They seem like pretty disparate choices.
If this is not the case, always buy the frame in better condition, regardless of label prestige. A dented Nagasawa is not worth the same as a pristine Bridgestone. Similarly, with regard to fit, the Panasonic that fits you is infinitely better for you than the Samson that is two sizes too small.
Of course, if they are equal in the above respects, the Eimei vs. Makino debate comes down to pure aesthetics. Makino has a more famous name, but is a bigger manufacturer. Eimei is a much smaller shop.
Do you want the frame that everyone knows, but more people have? Or the frame that gives you exclusivity at the price of a little anonimity?
How did you pick those two brands to be your favorites? They seem like pretty disparate choices.
06-10-08 | 11:29 AM
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From: Santa Barbara
Bikes: SE Quadrangle, '82 Venus NJS, '03 Bianchi Pista, '86 P'sonic Mt Cat, Fat City Yo Eddy '91 + '93, B'cuda A2E, '86 Trek Elance 400, '88 Centurion D.Scott Expert, '88 Fisher Mt Tam (and no longer with me: SE OM Flyer, Umezawa/B-stone/Samson NJS)
I personally don't like Makinos so much. not sure why. if you have the cash and like the paint job I'd take the new Eimei.
06-10-08 | 11:37 AM
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Makino probably impresses your friends more, but, like you said, the Eimei is the one you actually want. When will you have the opportunity to buy a new one again?
...oh, you'll be racing this bike, right?
06-10-08 | 02:22 PM
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No, but racing a new (not vintage, just old-tech) lugged-steel frame whose geometry is specifically designed for track racing might have an advantage or two over a modern frame whose geometry is less racing-oriented and more geared toward the barrspinzing arrospok-and-riser crowd.
