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fixed cog on single speed wheel?
Hi, i just built up a single speed and was wondering if i could try fixed without having to buy a new wheel. Is there a way I can attach a cog to the wheel even though it doesnt have the reverse thread for the lock ring?
Thanks, Richard |
just thread it on with your hand, it'll be fine. seriously.
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Originally Posted by joejam
(Post 6862261)
just thread it on with your hand, it'll be fine. seriously.
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Originally Posted by bdfresh
(Post 6862371)
ummm no it wont, considering it will still have a freewheel due to the hub it won't work. he needs a fixed gear hub to make it work, and will probably need to space it out. so NO it won't work.
if he has brakes it's fine. If he rotafixes it it's more that fine |
Use a good, quality cog and use a brake. Occasional back pedaling will not back the cog off. Don't even bother using those useless bottom bracket lock rings.
I run a fixed cog on the single speed side of a flip flop hub all the time. |
the hub itself is not a freewheel, there is a singlespeed freewheel threaded on there
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Originally Posted by richlu87
(Post 6862438)
the hub itself is not a freewheel, there is a singlespeed freewheel threaded on there
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Originally Posted by bdfresh
(Post 6862371)
ummm no it wont, considering it will still have a freewheel due to the hub it won't work. he needs a fixed gear hub to make it work, and will probably need to space it out. so NO it won't work.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
(Post 6862399)
Use a good, quality cog and use a brake. Occasional back pedaling will not back the cog off. Don't even bother using those useless bottom bracket lock rings.
I run a fixed cog on the single speed side of a flip flop hub all the time. time was, prettymuch every roadgoing fixed was that way. |
How does the cog not come off without something holding it in it's place?
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No
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dear god, sarcasm over internet is completly hopeless. kill me.
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Originally Posted by richlu87
(Post 6864900)
How does the cog not come off without something holding it in it's place?
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oh jesus this thread sucks. I think the original useful response was sarcasm, but here we go...
you can indeed thread a track cog onto a road wheel designed for a freewheel or thread-on cassette. this is called a "suicide hub" because you are running with no locking, a few good skids potentially *could* throw off the cog, leaving you to fall to a bloody, tooth-lossed mess. however, with brakes (to minimize backpedalling) and some red (uber-permanent) locktite you can be pretty sure it will never happen. |
And if you can thread a BB lockring to it.
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Originally Posted by peabodypride
(Post 6865133)
oh jesus this thread sucks. I think the original useful response was sarcasm, but here we go...
you can indeed thread a track cog onto a road wheel designed for a freewheel or thread-on cassette. this is called a "suicide hub" because you are running with no locking, a few good skids potentially *could* throw off the cog, leaving you to fall to a bloody, tooth-lossed mess. however, with brakes (to minimize backpedalling) and some red (uber-permanent) locktite you can be pretty sure it will never happen. I have a bike with a very low ratio and beat the hell out of it, and skid like crazy, and the loctite (and BB lockring) have held up fine. I'm also running a brake, more precautionary than anything. But, I don't plan on taking the cog off anytime soon, and if I ever do, I'm sure I'll mess the hub up trying to take it off. |
yeah as a warning if you use red loctite and rotafix the cog on it is a really low-level fastener (as in it bonds the hub threads and cog in a metallic-like way) so it's basically never coming off. if you could find the strength to remove it, the hub threads would likely just rip off.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
(Post 6865098)
Does the lid on a mayonnaise jar unscrew itself?
At a minimum, thread on with red loctite and a strap wrench. |
If you clean the threads before you tighten up the cog, and use blue loctite and the rotafixa method of tightening the cog, you shouldn't have any problems. I rode a bike like that for 6 months with no problems. Keep a brake on anyways.
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Originally Posted by richlu87
(Post 6864900)
How does the cog not come off without something holding it in it's place?
Centrifugal forces. |
Originally Posted by Aeroplane
(Post 6867325)
If you clean the threads before you tighten up the cog, and use blue loctite and the rotafixa method of tightening the cog, you shouldn't have any problems. I rode a bike like that for 6 months with no problems. Keep a brake on anyways.
I saw this with regards to the Rotafixa method and though it interesting http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/arti...ance/lance.htm |
Originally Posted by joejam
(Post 6865038)
dear god, sarcasm over internet is completly hopeless. kill me.
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Originally Posted by stevo
(Post 6867309)
are you for real? Didnt you ever notice Mayonnaise comes with that plastic seal over the lid? Mayonnaise without that seal is called 'suicide jar' for a reason you know.
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