If you were as Italian as me, you'd understand. It's kind of a pride and patriotic thing that I can't explain. But I'm starting to think twice about because the parts are hard to find and most of them are no longer made in Italy.

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What's up your ass ******bag? Feel better about yourself?

Did I claim that Italian stuff was better? No you prick, so I don't get your ignorant comment. Oh wait you're from Georgia, that explains it all. *******.

I'm the dbag? Claiming that your more Italian because you love Italy to the point where you want to make sure that the every piece of your bike was "made" there is the type of Italian pride exhibited by trash that refers to ragu as gravy.

My, drainyoo seems to have a sensitive ego, is quick to get angry and is argumentative.

The 'all Italian' thing makes perfect sense now.

PS, dutret, you rock, never change.

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I have Torrelli Open Tubulars on my Gazelle (they're clinchers but are cut flat and then have a wire inserted in the edges). Great tires. Very round and grippy.

But they're not Italian. The label says "Hand Made in Thailand."

Honestly I'm not sure where this is coming from. You made assumptions about me and proceeded to insult me for no apparent reason. I never claimed that I was more Italian than you or anyone else. I don't even know if you're Italian. Are you? Why would I claimed that I'm more Italian than you if I don't even know anything about you. My family is a very tradition italian and I take pride in my background so I just simply want to build a bike that expresses that pride. Is that such a terrible thing? To you it seems like it is. And Ragu is awful.

Excellent. I've read some good things about Torellis and I want to try out open tubulars. I might pick these ip.

Hay you guys does anbody know where I can pick up some Slovenian tubes? I hear they're all sourced from Thailand now.

WTF!!!???!?!?!?!?!

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Seriously you don't like any ragu and you identify yourself Italian? Maybe you're just confused cause you refer to it as gravy.

Wow you have issues man. Are you even Italian? You're arguing with me for no reason.

Well you did blatantly lie and I am completely baffled by your assistance that "ragu is awful." Did you traditional italian family really never serve any sort of ragu?

Wow you have issues man. Are you even Italian? You're arguing with me for no reason.

At this point I just want an explanation for the ragu comment.

I see this thread is probably beyond the pale now, but Challenge tyres, as I said, are made in Thailand. I like them.

Acorn thanks. I'm going to check them out even though they're not Italian. I've actually never heard much about them so I'm intrigued.

I bought the Torellis at the Bike Biz. I was looking at their website and they list these:

https://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/cmp-tir-tor01.htm

They're not listed as open tubulars but they have the same fine herringbone pattern as mine.

Excellent! Thanks.

Dude, as someone of half-Slovenian descent, I just want to say I'm offended and angry!

I'm three-quarters. Been looking for those tubes all day...

just had to chime in -- i have been extremely impressed with velofex tires. i have been running paves (22, 7/8bar) all summer and love them -- extremely supple and light, but still have a belt -- i would recommend them for sure

diblet, do the Velofelx wear out quickly? Are they grippy?

Clearly he is thinking of the canned sauce brand that goes by the name "Ragu," and not "ragú," the generic Italian term for meat sauce.

If you can't find them, let me know, I'll call on my 1/4 Gypsy blood and go steal some.

OMFG! That made me spill my drink!