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Dropping weight on the Rush Hour

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Old 07-24-08 | 06:24 PM
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Dropping weight on the Rush Hour

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I just purchased an 08 Raleigh Rush Hour.

Does anyone know the cheapest and easiest way to drop some weight from the stock configuration?

I am running it single speed.

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Old 07-24-08 | 06:26 PM
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BTW, my forum name was a sort of a bad joke. I am definitely running both brakes!
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Old 07-24-08 | 06:43 PM
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take off your cog/lock ring. Or just ride it fixed and take off the brakes, freewheel, levers. That helped a lot for me initially.
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Old 07-24-08 | 06:53 PM
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If you ride it fixed, please do yourself a favor and keep the front brake. The miniscule increase in weight over not having it is worth the ability to stop quickly.
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Old 07-24-08 | 07:11 PM
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If you ride it fixed, please do yourself a favor and keep the front brake. The miniscule increase in weight over not having it is worth the ability to stop quickly.
I've found it more rewarding to learn to ride without one. You definitely ride with a different mind state.

The only real thing you should make sure of is to have a backup plan in case your chain breaks or is thrown. foot on the back wheel is fine; enough to skid even.
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Old 07-24-08 | 08:50 PM
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Dropping weight on a fixed or single-speed bike is a great idea because it will let you be a *little* faster in a race that starts at the bottom of a mountain and finishes at the top. Some ways to drop the weight is to eliminate the extra cog and lockring, lose the rear brake, get rid of all reflectors, and change the seat post, stem and handlebar to those made of carbon fiber. Then you can change the stock pedals to eggbeaters by Crank Brothers or to the Speedplay Frog pedals. Dump the heavier stock bottom bracket and buy a top-of-the-line BB by either Campagnolo or Shimano. You'll save a good amount of weight with new wheelsets, preferably ones made with carbon fibers. Oh, and get the SLR 125 saddle.

This modification to your $500 bike should cost only south of $2,000, but you should be able to do well on that race up the mountain. Good luck. Please post pictures!
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Old 07-24-08 | 08:54 PM
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I've found it more rewarding to learn to ride without one. You definitely ride with a different mind state.

The only real thing you should make sure of is to have a backup plan in case your chain breaks or is thrown. foot on the back wheel is fine; enough to skid even.
this is true. i rode brakeless for a few weeks. definitely an eye opening experience lol. you will ride MUCH more safe
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Old 07-24-08 | 09:00 PM
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lighter wheelset, stem, fork, and seatpost are things you will immediately notice.
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I've found it more rewarding to learn to ride without one. You definitely ride with a different mind state.
your new age crap is just that. Go do yoga or something.
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Old 07-24-08 | 09:37 PM
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this is true. i rode brakeless for a few weeks. definitely an eye opening experience lol. you will ride MUCH more safe
you are full of bs in the frankfurtian sense. worst advice ever.
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Old 07-24-08 | 10:05 PM
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your ideas intrigue me. I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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****, I laughed.
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your new age crap is just that. Go do yoga or something.
It's true though. The first time I tried riding without a brake I was in a much different state of mind than with a front brake. I would describe it, in general terms as a sort of "OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH **** OH GOD" feeling.
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In all seriousness though the amount of weight lost from removing a brake and brake lever is negligible. Your best bet is a new wheelset with low rotational mass. If you are just looking to improve your riding experience, don't worry so much about weight, focus on comfort. Look to upgrade the contact points: saddle, pedals, and handlebar (all the while ensuring that you have a good fit).

Edit: IMHO the single best value in performance enhancement is in going to a clipless setup.
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Old 07-25-08 | 12:54 AM
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The fork on that thing is massive. An upgrade to a carbon unit would save you a lot of weight. You can get one for $80 at Performance Bike. I also found the seatpost to be unnecessarily long; perhaps cutting it down would help a bit.
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Old 07-25-08 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
this is true. i rode brakeless for a few weeks. definitely an eye opening experience lol. you will ride MUCH more safe
How is having no brakes SAFER? Indulge me with your it-makes-sense-if-you-ignore-the-laws-of-physics logic.
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Old 07-25-08 | 02:22 AM
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Thanks to all of those who provided solid advice such as changing the seat post, bottom bracket, wheelset, and removing the cog and lockring.

Honestly, this is my first real new bike. I only had about $400 to spend on a new bike and I test rode a couple and the Rush Hour fit the best. I am mostly happy with my purchase. I only inquired about reducing some of the weight on the frame because I have to carry my bike up and down 4 flights of stairs to my apt every day. That is all. Nothing about any deluded idea that I can get this bike light enough to win any races without proper conditioning.

I am running single speed. No plans to switch to fixed gear any time soon. I AM RUNNING BOTH BRAKES.

If anyone has any specific examples of inexpensive bottom brackets or wheelsets or seat posts, I would welcome them.

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Wheelsets are the most obvious, albeit not really cheap, way to shave pounds. Sadly, you didn't really buy a light frame to begin with, so I wouldn't obsess over it.

Regarding learning to ride fixed with no brakes... ********. Do what you want after you know what you're doing.

I have test rode a Rush Hour, perhaps an '06 in '06, it was a nice grey - it's a fine cycle in singlespeed mode. You should be fine. Do some curls with it or something to get that ground to shoulder pop down pat, mang.

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"Do some curls with it..."

Best advice yet! Thanks, time to man up and just carry this friggin' thing
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Old 07-25-08 | 09:21 AM
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I have an '07 Rush Hour - why lose weight? You didn't mention the whyness for your question. Mine is so much lighter than my early 80's Kuwahara that I never thought I needed to shed weight on it.
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Old 07-25-08 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jpmartineau
How is having no brakes SAFER? Indulge me with your it-makes-sense-if-you-ignore-the-laws-of-physics logic.
He did not say having no brakes makes you safer. He said it makes you RIDE safer. And i do in fact agree with the statement. When he was brakeless he probable rode slower, did less weaving in and out traffic and was generally more observant of his surroundings. You should try it. Its amazing what you do when you know you might not be able to stop quickly enough.
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Old 07-25-08 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by matt wisconsin
I've found it more rewarding to learn to ride without one. You definitely ride with a different mind state.

The only real thing you should make sure of is to have a backup plan in case your chain breaks or is thrown. foot on the back wheel is fine; enough to skid even.

Wouldn't a back up plan concievably be a front brake?

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He did not say having no brakes makes you safer. He said it makes you RIDE safer. And i do in fact agree with the statement.
God, this mindless drivel again. Riding safer and being safer are two different things.
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Old 07-25-08 | 10:53 AM
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You should drive a car with no brakes, it's amazing how much safer you drive when you realize you can't stop quickly enough. Seriously. I had no choice a few years ago when driving my project '83 VW GTI across the neighborhood. I was in the middle of replacing my e-brake cables and thus had no e-brake. Lucky for me, my master cylinder failed half way there, brake pedal to the floor. Engine braking from 35 to a stop sucks, especially on a car you are trying to keep running. Not to mention the fact that I literally could do nothing short of drag my feet (which I obviously didn't) to scrub speed.

Did it ever occur to you to just NOT pull the lever? Use your head.
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