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jcapell 09-10-08 09:46 AM

Alien Build Pics - 3 Configurations
 
Raceface:
http://www.capell.net/raceface.jpg
Barhop:
http://www.capell.net/barhop.jpg
Commuter:
http://www.capell.net/commuter.jpg

http://www.capell.net/headbadge.jpg


Components
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frame/fork/headset: ($450)
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Alien 59cm steel lugged 4130 chromo .9/.6/.9 tubing, gloss-black,
1" JIS threaded headset, black

wheelset: ($320)
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Velocity Deep-V 32h rims, non-machined, white,
Paul High Flange 120mmx32h rear track hub, fixed/fixed, black, 44mm chainline
Paul 100mmx32h front hub, black,
DT Swiss Champion spokes & nipples, black

cranks/chainring/BB: ($140)
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Andel 165mm cranks, black
144 BCD 46T CNC'd chainring, black
Shimano UN54 107mm BB, square taper, 44mm chainline

stem: ($40)
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Cinelli XA Quill 125x26.0mm, polished

handlebar: ($60)
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NITTO RB-021 Track Bull Horn, 42cm wide, 60mm drop, 26mm clamp,
Cinelli Cork wrap, white

saddle: ($100)
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Brooks B-17 Special, Honey

pedals/clips/straps: ($76)
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MKS GR-9 Pedals track pedals, black,
Ale Alloy toe clips, black,
Lapize laminate straps, black

cog/lockring: ($35)
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Shimano Dura-Ace 1/8" 16T
Paul lockring

chain: ($10)
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KMC Z410 1/8", white

tires: ($80)
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700x23c Continental Gatorskins, black

seatpost: ($70)
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Nitto S-65 27.2x250mm, silver

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Total Build: $1,381.00

Dimensions (59cm frame)
=======================
Seat tube (c-c): 57cm
Top tube: 57cm
Head tube: 17cm
Seat angle: 74°
Head angle: 74.5°
D/T-wheel gap: 13mm
Fork rake: 28mm
BB drop: 6cm
Chainstay: 40cm
Stand-over: 84cm
Rider height: 179-186cm

santaanna's leg 09-10-08 09:57 AM

They all look great. Are the only differences the bars and the seats?

Also, where'd you get your head badge made? I'd like to get a Virgin of Guadalupe one made one day.

jlin 09-10-08 09:58 AM

pretty sweet man. what pedals are those?

andre nickatina 09-10-08 10:03 AM

Liking it a lot. Hard to see lug details though.

Danre 09-10-08 10:04 AM

Looks sweet.

jdms mvp 09-10-08 10:21 AM

i don't think i could get used to swapping saddles =\

jcapell 09-10-08 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by santaanna's leg (Post 7439278)
where'd you get your head badge made?

Ha! Probably shouldn't give away my secret, but here you go: http://tinyurl.com/5bk7sq

:thumb:

santaanna's leg 09-10-08 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by jcapell (Post 7439592)
Ha! Probably shouldn't give away my secret, but here you go: http://tinyurl.com/5bk7sq

:thumb:

I'm not sure if you're joking, but I'll assume you're not. So do you just bend the pendant to conform to the tube? How do you then attach it? I don't see any rivets drilled, so I assume you attach something to the back.

Thanks in advance.

SingleSpeeDemon 09-10-08 11:06 AM

If you need a custom badge, you should check out Jen Green at headbadges.com. She created on for me and it is more jewelry than anything.

anthegreat1 09-10-08 11:06 AM

glue maybe

zaman fu 09-10-08 11:21 AM

how did you score that wheelset for so cheap?

sideshowhr 09-10-08 11:24 AM

very nice. clean bike mate . i see you have several different configurations for components... you wouldn't happen to have OCD would you? :D

i'm actually looking at getting the same crankset... how do you like it?

also a silly question.. but how would you measure to see what kind of bottom bracket would fit your bike?

santaanna's leg 09-10-08 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon (Post 7439785)
If you need a custom badge, you should check out Jen Green at headbadges.com. She created on for me and it is more jewelry than anything.

I know it will vary depending on the badge and the amount of work, but do you know what the approximate price range for her badges is?

jcapell 09-10-08 12:12 PM

Not joking: Dremeled off the chain-loop, bent the pewter pendant (quite easily actually) around the headtube, remove a small circle of powerdercoating down to the steel frame, and JB-Welded it in place. Ta-Da!

jcapell 09-10-08 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by zaman fu (Post 7439907)
how did you score that wheelset for so cheap?

Got that built locally at cost in exchange for tuning up my LBS's computer :)

santaanna's leg 09-10-08 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by jcapell (Post 7440241)
Not joking: Dremeled off the chain-loop, bent the pewter pendant (quite easily actually) around the headtube, remove a small circle of powerdercoating down to the steel frame, and JB-Welded it in place. Ta-Da!

That's great. There's certainly no shortage of virgen pendants out there, so I could do it super cheap this way. Thank you sir!

jcapell 09-10-08 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by sideshowhr (Post 7439931)
how would you measure to see what kind of bottom bracket would fit your bike?

Alien bikes told me the 103mm BB that came with their crankset produced a 42mm chainline, the Paul hubs create a 44mm chainline, so I figured I needed a BB with 2mm x2sides more, and ordered a 107mm Shimano UN54.

jcapell 09-10-08 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by santaanna's leg (Post 7440269)
That's great. There's certainly no shortage of virgen pendants out there, so I could do it super cheap this way. Thank you sir!

If the pewter is too thick to bend with your fingers, there are simple ways to deform the pendant to the diameter of the headtube - you can put together a makeshift wooden press (wood won't damage the pewter) like so:

http://www.capell.net/press.jpg

Fear my mad paintbrush skillz! ;)

Hirohsima 09-10-08 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by santaanna's leg (Post 7439990)
I know it will vary depending on the badge and the amount of work, but do you know what the approximate price range for her badges is?

http://headbadges.com/id74.html

A local shop got some head badges from her. they look awesome. I am pretty sure they paid ~150

santaanna's leg 09-10-08 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by jcapell (Post 7440402)

Fear my mad paintbrush skillz! ;)

I'm well a'feared.

Good stuff though. I'm definitely going to that route. I appreciate you sharing your secret. Should I ever have anything worth divulging, I'll give it right up.

andrewro 09-10-08 01:01 PM

Alien and Andel cranks are the same but Alien is cheaper. Joseph sent someone at the Other Place an email confirming this.

EDIT: The bike looks great btw! I am planning to pick one up at some point.

Can you get a stand-over height measurement? I'm thinking I want the 61 but maybe the 59 would be better. I'm curious how close the measurement on their website is to real-world builds.

dervish 09-10-08 10:21 PM

bravo on a good build

powerband 09-10-08 11:47 PM

Jcapell,

NICE build!

I have the same XA Cinelli stem with a 26mm diameter clamp. I also have a Cinelli drop bar with 26 mm diameter. For some reason, I really have to crank down on the stem bolt to tighten onto the 26 mm bar. Did you find that you had to clamp down on the bolt a lot, too? Did you keep the black rubber piece between the clamp surfaces on your Cinelli stem, or did you remove it to clamp down on your bar?

Thanks!

jcapell 09-11-08 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by powerband (Post 7444852)
I have the same XA Cinelli stem with a 26mm diameter clamp. I also have a Cinelli drop bar with 26 mm diameter. For some reason, I really have to crank down on the stem bolt to tighten onto the 26 mm bar.

I'm concerned that you may have a 26.4mm clamp - there are plenty of shims available to add .4mm to a bar, I'm using some on the 'barhop' build to hold those 25.4 risers in a 26.0 clamp.

If you are certain that you have a 26.0, as long as the bars don't rotate under force, you should be OK. I left out the rubber insert, never could get it to look good.

vee_dub 09-11-08 06:09 AM

Nice bike..:)
but if I were you stick with one saddle and handle bar.
Sell the rest of the items so you can get yourself a nicer set of cranks???


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