Paying $800 for a dented beat to **** frame makes no sense. Especially when you can get a new custom NJS Panasonic for not much more.

this sums up the thread pretty well. Honestly this is a pretty ridiculous thread. If the OP is seriously considering a sparton versus an $800 dented rensho then he should really just chill and ride. Get yourself a steamroller or something similar. The steamroller with last you forever if you want or you can upgrade to a highly coveted NJS frame in a couple years when you finally figure things out.

There are things going on here you folks don't understand.

Yes I can get a new Panasonic on ebay for $800, but look at the differences.

Look, there's a reason half the shoes in my collection are older than me...and will outlast me. Sure I can go out & but some Kenneth Coles, Guccis, Pradas. But those are throw away shoes. That dented frame comes with a story & history behind the dent, plus it will sell for more than I bought it for after I'm done with it. Youngsters.

i was watching Greg Lemond win the Tour on Wide World of Sports when you were in diapers. don't compare an old, dented bike frame to a nicely worn in pair of shoes.

So get the Sparton?

Seriously. People on here have no idea what they're talking about. The Sparton is a really nice, serious track frame like the Hour, but that 3rensho is worth a bit more than your standard, vanilla Rensho frame thanks to that dent and its possibly hardcore history. You might check whether it is/was owned by a messenger, since that couldn't hurt the value either.

Get the 3rensho and do it up with proper NJS components -- that bike deserves it. It's a great deal on a sweet bike with character.

Maybe post pics of some of those classic shoes when you get a chance so people have a better feel for what you're talking about.

^I had to read that 3 times. (unsure of sincerity) Thanks?

http://jonnycycles.blogspot.com/2007...me-repair.html

nah, get an Alien and put 3Rensho decals on it. then we can be twinsies.

pretty sure he was being sarcastic. seriously, though, put down the Kool-Aid. don't spend $800 bucks on a crashed frame.

ARE YOU SERIOUS

as for the serious track frame thing, according to the sparton geometry page - http://www.thevarsityproject.org/geometry - track geometry it ain't got..

oh. my. god.

is everyone's sarcasm detector broken tonight?

I know fellas. Just that that was extremely mild coming from "the bitter one".

After speaking with Jorge from Sparton on the phone, it became clear that they measured 1 (probably small) frame & guessed the rest of the sizes geometry.

This video (seeing the bike) is what has me ready to order.

lulz.

That video also proves my theory about riding brakeless, how top tube dents are formed & that bunny-hop 180s are for BMX bikes.

Cannondale CAAD8 R5000 with full DA

can we all just honor lock this hell hole of a thread already. some kid is going to wander in here and get hurt


possibly by riding his new sparton into a tree at full speed

didn't somebody do that already?

then he thought it was the best thing ever because his fork got bent which gave him enough clearance to do barspinzz?

rofl

I think I'm going to get the Sparton after seeing that video again.

And put a 3Rensho sticker set on it. Thanks!

what's there to know, looks like they are being tigged by george lopez