I race a Steelman, and a Yamaguchi.

I ride around on an IRO, and a Surly.

Tomity San says different, beutiful frame BTW.

http://www.cyclingforums.com/showpos...5&postcount=10

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Now that I look at this frame & the pics of the pink bike I posted a page back, there are some differences. I think the frames have evolved somewhat. I'm going to view the frames in person at King Kog & report back.

Thanks to all of you who have provided some positive feedback on this thread. I started this thread not only to get feedback from the community, but also as an update to the previous threads on the Sparton topic. Judging from the reviews these frames has received from riders, bloggers & retailers, and the fact that some of the guys involved with selling these frames have come on fora like this, and the fact that the price has risen lends to the fact that they may have made/be making adjustments to their frames.

I'm going to purchase one anyway. I like the fact that these guys are very accessible & seem eager to make things right with customer. That is a definite plus.

There's always going to be people without anything positive to add. They'll get theirs one day. For the rest of you, stay up.

hahaha......I really enjoyed that, thanks.

If you can, find out about the forks. The crown on the blue bike looks nicer than the pink one, in my opinion.

Just got back from King Kog, Gina was really helpful. She has 2 Sparton frames in stock. They looked really nice. Not all that light, but not scaffolding either. The paint job was decent. The stickers looked easily removable. She's getting another shipment in soon, sizes 50cm-56cm.

She did mention that there was some prep work needed due to the painting of the frame, but said any average shop could do it for about $20. The 2 frames she has left has been in her shop for a year.

SSD, Jorge told me that when I order my frame to let him know whether I want the straight-blade fork, or the curved one. Not too sure about the fork crowns. He said he's getting a shipment in for the store in SC next weekendish. I'm sure he'd be happy to send you some pics. They are selling forks on their eBay store too.

I'm going to order the orange frameset with white decals tomorrow. I'll post pics & my finding when it arrives.

There are some people willing to listen to reason, and some people who only listen to what they want to hear. OP is an example of the latter.

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fork looks pretty gross

You're talking to a guy who filed down his brakestay so that he could fit his tire closer to his seat tube. He'll love that fork

that's a pretty dope bike!

the fork looks like the ones I got from a guy backyard in DC. They were off some Galaxy FreeSpirit or something like that. Just awful frames.

What I listen to are facts, not "things you had heard".

I actually have seen this frame in person, how many of you naysayers can say the same?

Thought so.

Did you look at that 3Rensho in person?

Thought so. :)

You know it's possible to "hear" facts, right?

You're such an insufferable ******bag...

make your decisions as you will. No one is going to stop you but that wont stop us from trying to educate you. You posted a thread asking for opinions on 3rensho vs Sparton and we gave you our opinion over and over again. If you dont want our opinions dont ask.

What this really comes down to is that you want an undrilled fork and pretty paint. Those were your two main qualifiers in your original post. You also mentioned how you wanted NJS but your reasons for that were for undrilled and paint. At that point you realized you could get some gas pipe piece of **** from Jorge for the price of painting a frame so why not?

If your only concern is looks then go for the Sparton. But be warned, when you show up at a ride no one that knows anything about bikes will be fooled one bit by your sparton frame. The reason NJS frames were so coveted a few years ago was because of build quality. Anyone riding one can tell you the same and when they see your sparton frame you might as well have stuck with your Hour.

Not trying to be a dick here, but you've seemingly dumped a fair amount of cash (new stem, new wheels, new crankset[?]) into your Windsor, and you've only had it for a few months. So why would you want to go out and buy a new, crappier track bike (the Sparton) after you've put some effort into your bike already?

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haha I love how you can see an uneven gap between the bottom headset cup and the headtube.

Nice catch. Spending the cash on a CK and neglecting to face the head-tube is pretty much epic fail.

I'm OCD I guess, butI actually haven't spent all that much on the bike thus far, I'm under $600 including paint.

If someone who owned the bike said the bike was crap, I would listen to them. But most replies on here are from what people read, and much of that was from almost a year ago.

erichsia, your question was answered yesterday. Learn to read.

Yeah, god knows nobody ever learned any real "facts" by reading...

Oh, that's right. You don't have to see a frame to buy it, cause that's the power of "history".

Hey, I've got an NJS frame for you $500. Send me a 25% down, and I'll email you some pictures. :roflmao2:

this made me lol

bigbris,

what do you think when you see
A. a conversion
B. a front brake
???