Let's talk diet
#51
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this thread is actually making me feel pretty good about my diet. i eat a lot of whole grains (pasta, rice) vegetables with almost every meal, and a good bit of fruit, usually a banana a day and some sort of mixed fruit salad, not canned. i eat eggs a few days a week, and tofu. my problem is eating large quantities only once or twice a day, partially due to schedule and just being a brokish college student. i like to eat nature's valley granola bars or cliff bars as snacks. i drink mostly water, a few coffees depending on class/ work, and every once in awhile i'll grab a gatorade. my 2 biggest problems are pizza and beer. i've cut my pizza consumption back from like 5 days a week to maybe 1 or 2, and i always get them loaded with veggies. living in nyc its just so readily available, cheap, and delicious. beer as well, i'm in college, beer just comes with the territory, i probably have 2 or 3 maybe just on a normal hangout night with friends, and a little (lot) more on a night out at a bar or something. lately i've been wanting to eat so much though, which greatly conflicts with my girlfriend whom i usually eat with, and works in the fashion industry, where eating more than 1 meal a day is frowned upon. she doesn't get why i'm always so hungry, but she doesn't ride 20 + miles a day either. trying to balance meals becomes a bit of challenge when living with her.
Have the pizza made with half the cheese. You won't miss it if you've got lots of veggies in there and it really cuts the fat.
#53
Earlier this summer I decided to give up white bread (and white pastas, rice, etc) as well as meat (for all the obvious reasons). I can honestly say it was probably one of the best decision I've ever made. Right up there with quitting smoking. Without even trying I've lost a lot of weight and in general I have much more energy. My weekday routine is:
Breakfast:
1 Hardboiled egg
Tall glass OJ
Coffee
Lunch:
Hummus (From "Hummus Place" in nyc, which is ******** heaven)
Dinner:
Something big but healthy. Salad, whole wheat pasta.
Check out this vid as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YkNkscBEp0
Bittman's cookbook, "How to Cook Everything Vegetarian" is a must for some simple, healthy stuff.
Breakfast:
1 Hardboiled egg
Tall glass OJ
Coffee
Lunch:
Hummus (From "Hummus Place" in nyc, which is ******** heaven)
Dinner:
Something big but healthy. Salad, whole wheat pasta.
Check out this vid as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YkNkscBEp0
Bittman's cookbook, "How to Cook Everything Vegetarian" is a must for some simple, healthy stuff.
#54
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I make a breakfast oatmeal that contains more than oats.
My local health food store has bulk rolled-grains.
Rolled-grains look like what we call oatmeal, or rolled-oats.
I buy rolled-barley, rolled-rye, rolled-wheat, rolled-triticale and thick-rolled-oats.
Sold in bags, these travel well in my newspaperboy or messenger bag.
I buy about a pound of each, mix them together in a big tupperware-type container, and it costs me less than $5 for five pounds and lasts me about six weeks.
When I get up in the morning I combine a half cup of hot water, a half cup of skim milk, and a 1/4 teaspoon of salt in a small sauce pan, and put this on high heat on the stove.
When it starts to steam and threatens to boil, I turn the stove to its lowest heat, add a half cup of rolled grains, put the lid on the pan and forget about it while I go about my morning routine.
After a half hour or an hour, or an hour and a half or two hours, the grains have absorbed all of the liquid and have fluffed up and remain individual grains (instead of disintegrating into a gluey mush).
I put the cereal in a bowl, top it with three Splenda packets, add enough skim milk to dissolve the Splenda, and I fold it all together.
Each of the grains cooks a little differently and this give the cereal a nice tender chewy texture that I love.
I follow this up with a banana, maybe a little lowfat cottage cheese, and/or lowfat yogurt.
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For non-vegans, IMHO, sliced deli roast turkey represents the cheapest and healthiest source of animal protein.
I buy whole grain commercial breads, and I pay close attention to the dates on the bread so that I get the freshest possible bread.
Roast turkey sandwiches with super fresh, moist, whole grain bread and a little mustard.
Yummy.
I also buy natural peanut butter and this makes a healthy alternative to roast turkey; and, although peanut butter has a high fat content, at least it has healthy fat.
For those one or two times a week when I fry two eggs for eggs on toast, I use Grapeseed oil, which costs about $10 a quart.
Expensive, yes, but I use very little of it and one can't eat a more healthy oil than Grapeseed oil.
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I like a nice big tomato, which I wash, slice, and eat on a plate with a knife and fork, like a steak.
My local health food store has bulk rolled-grains.
Rolled-grains look like what we call oatmeal, or rolled-oats.
I buy rolled-barley, rolled-rye, rolled-wheat, rolled-triticale and thick-rolled-oats.
Sold in bags, these travel well in my newspaperboy or messenger bag.
I buy about a pound of each, mix them together in a big tupperware-type container, and it costs me less than $5 for five pounds and lasts me about six weeks.
When I get up in the morning I combine a half cup of hot water, a half cup of skim milk, and a 1/4 teaspoon of salt in a small sauce pan, and put this on high heat on the stove.
When it starts to steam and threatens to boil, I turn the stove to its lowest heat, add a half cup of rolled grains, put the lid on the pan and forget about it while I go about my morning routine.
After a half hour or an hour, or an hour and a half or two hours, the grains have absorbed all of the liquid and have fluffed up and remain individual grains (instead of disintegrating into a gluey mush).
I put the cereal in a bowl, top it with three Splenda packets, add enough skim milk to dissolve the Splenda, and I fold it all together.
Each of the grains cooks a little differently and this give the cereal a nice tender chewy texture that I love.
I follow this up with a banana, maybe a little lowfat cottage cheese, and/or lowfat yogurt.
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For non-vegans, IMHO, sliced deli roast turkey represents the cheapest and healthiest source of animal protein.
I buy whole grain commercial breads, and I pay close attention to the dates on the bread so that I get the freshest possible bread.
Roast turkey sandwiches with super fresh, moist, whole grain bread and a little mustard.
Yummy.
I also buy natural peanut butter and this makes a healthy alternative to roast turkey; and, although peanut butter has a high fat content, at least it has healthy fat.
For those one or two times a week when I fry two eggs for eggs on toast, I use Grapeseed oil, which costs about $10 a quart.
Expensive, yes, but I use very little of it and one can't eat a more healthy oil than Grapeseed oil.
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I like a nice big tomato, which I wash, slice, and eat on a plate with a knife and fork, like a steak.
#55
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It cuts fat, but lets remember not all fat is bad, and that pizza is still just a big plate of carbohydrates processed by man. To each his own though. Its all about finding the diet that works for you. I personally do not like the bloat that comes along with man made carbs. You probably won't notice this bloat unless you are super lean already.
#56
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Don't believe this hype below!!!

We've been forced to think this chart is the proper way to eat, but it needs quite a bit of revision.
For me, sticking to whole foods has been the best choice I have made. Furthermore, its not a diet. It is basically a lifestyle change. Somedays it is hard but it is rewarding when you look at yourself compared to 80% of America. Disgusting.

We've been forced to think this chart is the proper way to eat, but it needs quite a bit of revision.
For me, sticking to whole foods has been the best choice I have made. Furthermore, its not a diet. It is basically a lifestyle change. Somedays it is hard but it is rewarding when you look at yourself compared to 80% of America. Disgusting.
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#58
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I am actually not looking to make a dietary change and start eating healthy. I've been eating healthy for years. I just wanted to find out if there was anything I was seriously missing out on.
I tried hummus a couple years back but didn't like it. With all the people raving about it in this thread I might have to give it a second chance.
I've really been digging the ground lean turkey meat lately. It takes a while to cook but it's so bomb.
I tried hummus a couple years back but didn't like it. With all the people raving about it in this thread I might have to give it a second chance.
I've really been digging the ground lean turkey meat lately. It takes a while to cook but it's so bomb.
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I am actually not looking to make a dietary change and start eating healthy. I've been eating healthy for years. I just wanted to find out if there was anything I was seriously missing out on.
I tried hummus a couple years back but didn't like it. With all the people raving about it in this thread I might have to give it a second chance.
I've really been digging the ground lean turkey meat lately. It takes a while to cook but it's so bomb.
I tried hummus a couple years back but didn't like it. With all the people raving about it in this thread I might have to give it a second chance.
I've really been digging the ground lean turkey meat lately. It takes a while to cook but it's so bomb.
i used to eat turkey burgers all the time and they gave me great energy and are lean too...these days i eat more faux meats and i still eat fish and seafood, hard not to eat sushi
#62
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Moot, yet still valid since most people still follow it, whether or not usda has said anything. Many people still refer to it and have been taught to do so. Not there fault, but either way, it is still used by plenty people, especially in schools and doctor's offices I have been in. Just because usda has announced something, doesn't mean folks are doing the right thing all of a sudden. This thread is proof with 80-90% highly processed carbohydrate diets being the "norm." Same thing happens at restaurants with tons of pasta or bread, (wayyy too) small portion of veggies, moderate portion of lean meat if that, but "hey its good it says they use no Trans Fat!", hehe.
#64
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salads, raisins, steak, beer, Makers Mark...... no bananas..... grapes and apples----
find a diet that lets you evacuate in a reg pattern-- and when your backed up--- eat fruit.
when Im backed up --- I drink a lot and eat McDonalds...
find a diet that lets you evacuate in a reg pattern-- and when your backed up--- eat fruit.
when Im backed up --- I drink a lot and eat McDonalds...
#65
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Are you referring to paleo and neo carbs?
Some might say so, but I just believe in eating whole foods as opposed to refined/processed foods that are no longer in their natural form. I am definitely not anti-carb as I love sweet potato and eat it daily, along with a few other naturally growing starches. I don't exclude legumes or nuts like a hardcore paleo follower would.
Some might say so, but I just believe in eating whole foods as opposed to refined/processed foods that are no longer in their natural form. I am definitely not anti-carb as I love sweet potato and eat it daily, along with a few other naturally growing starches. I don't exclude legumes or nuts like a hardcore paleo follower would.
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#66
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I concur with bbattle Try to eat real food, as unprocessed as reasonable. You don't have to eat everything raw, but simple presentation like a sauteeing with olive oil, grilling, or steaming. If you have room for a garden there's nothing more delicious than a tomato or pepper you've grown yourself. And don't deny yourself something you love. For me, it's a nice steak. But it's not an every night thing. Just something to enjoy every once in a while.
#67
Are you referring to paleo and neo carbs?
Some might say so, but I just believe in eating whole foods as opposed to refined/processed foods that are no longer in their natural form. I am definitely not anti-carb as I love sweet potato and eat it daily, along with a few other naturally growing starches. I don't exclude legumes or nuts like a hardcore paleo follower would.
Some might say so, but I just believe in eating whole foods as opposed to refined/processed foods that are no longer in their natural form. I am definitely not anti-carb as I love sweet potato and eat it daily, along with a few other naturally growing starches. I don't exclude legumes or nuts like a hardcore paleo follower would.
Anyways yeah I used to be far more interested in diet/nutrition than I am now though I've still retained a lot of it, and while I can respect the Paleo diet I don't see how it translates to athletes very much. I guess adding sweet potatoes and legumes adds more into the diet. But when I am training and racing on the bike by diet becomes very grain centered though I try to keep it whole grain pasta and sprouted wheat bread mainly (on top of carbs from other sources like yogurt, fruits, legumes and honey). I ate a strict gluten-free diet for awhile but didn't notice that much of a difference when I did, still stuck with a lot of non gluten grains like rice at the time though. Anyways, while pasta and bread are technically refined, they obviously aren't as bad on the body as say Doritoes and microwave dinners, unless you take to heart what the avid Paleo writers have to say. I agree with the whole food eating sentiment although it isn't always easy to do, just not the idea that grains are bad when they're whole and balanced by protein-dominant stuff.
#68
I think the best things anyone can do would be to eat more fresh fruits and vegetables, stop drinking soda, and cook more food at home rather than eating out. Also, read the nutrition facts on things you commonly buy from the store, you might think twice about some things.
#69
I make a breakfast oatmeal that contains more than oats.
My local health food store has bulk rolled-grains.
Rolled-grains look like what we call oatmeal, or rolled-oats.
I buy rolled-barley, rolled-rye, rolled-wheat, rolled-triticale and thick-rolled-oats.
Sold in bags, these travel well in my newspaperboy or messenger bag.
I buy about a pound of each, mix them together in a big tupperware-type container, and it costs me less than $5 for five pounds and lasts me about six weeks.
When I get up in the morning I combine a half cup of hot water, a half cup of skim milk, and a 1/4 teaspoon of salt in a small sauce pan, and put this on high heat on the stove.
When it starts to steam and threatens to boil, I turn the stove to its lowest heat, add a half cup of rolled grains, put the lid on the pan and forget about it while I go about my morning routine.
After a half hour or an hour, or an hour and a half or two hours, the grains have absorbed all of the liquid and have fluffed up and remain individual grains (instead of disintegrating into a gluey mush).
I put the cereal in a bowl, top it with three Splenda packets, add enough skim milk to dissolve the Splenda, and I fold it all together.
Each of the grains cooks a little differently and this give the cereal a nice tender chewy texture that I love.
I follow this up with a banana, maybe a little lowfat cottage cheese, and/or lowfat yogurt.
My local health food store has bulk rolled-grains.
Rolled-grains look like what we call oatmeal, or rolled-oats.
I buy rolled-barley, rolled-rye, rolled-wheat, rolled-triticale and thick-rolled-oats.
Sold in bags, these travel well in my newspaperboy or messenger bag.
I buy about a pound of each, mix them together in a big tupperware-type container, and it costs me less than $5 for five pounds and lasts me about six weeks.
When I get up in the morning I combine a half cup of hot water, a half cup of skim milk, and a 1/4 teaspoon of salt in a small sauce pan, and put this on high heat on the stove.
When it starts to steam and threatens to boil, I turn the stove to its lowest heat, add a half cup of rolled grains, put the lid on the pan and forget about it while I go about my morning routine.
After a half hour or an hour, or an hour and a half or two hours, the grains have absorbed all of the liquid and have fluffed up and remain individual grains (instead of disintegrating into a gluey mush).
I put the cereal in a bowl, top it with three Splenda packets, add enough skim milk to dissolve the Splenda, and I fold it all together.
Each of the grains cooks a little differently and this give the cereal a nice tender chewy texture that I love.
I follow this up with a banana, maybe a little lowfat cottage cheese, and/or lowfat yogurt.

Another good snack is cottage cheese with pepperocinis(sp?).
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