Interbike 2008 SS/Fixed/Track/SS Cross
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They're made out of astronaut metal. I read it on the internet.
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With the cruiser, your position isn't hovering over the front hub, with your head perched over the front, nor are the wide tires going to allow you upto speed in any easy fashion. Designing a bike that fits the current hip FG/SS mold invites the rider to start ripping traffic/mashing. Any bike with a so-close-to-road-bike shape/position needs a front brake from the get go.... if the consumer wishes to remove it afterward then fine. It's a move of colossal irresponsibility,(stupidity from a legal standpoint, when all that's needed is a brake to be installed) from the manufacturer NOT to address this.
So simple to fix, but the OSO poster seems determined to risk being dragged into court. Other than that there is nothing wrong with the design per say.
So simple to fix, but the OSO poster seems determined to risk being dragged into court. Other than that there is nothing wrong with the design per say.
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WTF? Why is my Interbike thread now combined with Laredoshane's thread about his Osobike??
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What's the rolling resistance of each? A rider sitting up on fat tires vs. a road positioned rider on say 25's.. 23's?
....and which has a better chance of stopping easier and in better control? The cruiser with the two to three inch wide rear tire with a rider sitting almost upright over the back wheel, or the OSO rider leaning forward in their bullhorns with his weight over the cranks riding on a roadie tire?
Forget the hill, go shoot one of your default builds into traffic, get it nice and wound up and then allow yourself to be cut off and see just how well your rear coaster only bike works for you. This will illustrate what everyone is speaking of. Just put a front brake on the damned thing as part of the default bike. That's all anyone is sayin'.
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All ya'll hatin' on the Osobike for not having a front brake: you know how ridiculous that must sound to shane in a thread showing all kinds of bikes for sale without front brakes, yes? Aren't most tarck bikes sold without a front brake? Not the new, street-oriented "track" bikes that are all the rage, but the actual bikes sold as track bikes as recently as a couple of years ago that people were riding around everywhere on the streets? Those bikes don't even have anything that can legally be called a brake on them... how have Fuji, KHS, Bianchi, etc., who have been selling truly brakeless bikes for decades, not have had the snot sued out of them over this oh so critical issue? Same with the dolt getting down on Osobikes for the teardrop shaped tubing--you'd think such a person never saw an IRO Mark V (any bets on if it's the same tubing, manufactured at the same factory?). And while I do see a front brake on the Surly steamroller, does it come with reflectors not pictured in marketing material?
The marketing could use a bit of work... if he was selling to elite, niche buyers. But maybe he's onto something with his everyman approach to marketing--there's people getting over on a lot of other people by sticking to the "folksy," common person (LCD?) approach lately...
Kudos to shane for actually having bikes manufactured and imported for sale. How 'bout some of you critics try the same? Two mistakes--coming here to plug an upright cruiser (in the SS/FG subforum??? I know, what was he thinking???), and taking everyone's criticism to heart. Shane, HTFU.
Although there was actually some decent, constructive criticism in here that he actually should pay attention to. Just that the dreck to useful ratio is a bit skewed...
All you haterz suck Shane's balls. Shane, go sell bikes, don't get your panties in a twist here.
The marketing could use a bit of work... if he was selling to elite, niche buyers. But maybe he's onto something with his everyman approach to marketing--there's people getting over on a lot of other people by sticking to the "folksy," common person (LCD?) approach lately...
Kudos to shane for actually having bikes manufactured and imported for sale. How 'bout some of you critics try the same? Two mistakes--coming here to plug an upright cruiser (in the SS/FG subforum??? I know, what was he thinking???), and taking everyone's criticism to heart. Shane, HTFU.
Although there was actually some decent, constructive criticism in here that he actually should pay attention to. Just that the dreck to useful ratio is a bit skewed...
All you haterz suck Shane's balls. Shane, go sell bikes, don't get your panties in a twist here.
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A coaster brake and a fixed drive-train are about as similar as an apple and an orange.
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I see that you even wore safety goggles for your aviator picture. That is mighty safe of you. In case of spitting you will be protected.
I see that you even wore safety goggles for your aviator picture. That is mighty safe of you. In case of spitting you will be protected.
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You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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*** Fuji, KHS, Bianchi, sell tracks bikes(no brakes required), where they end up being ridden is the lookout of the consumer. If the OSO were a track bike he could forgo the coaster brake too.***
'The OSO is easy to maintain like a cruiser but fast like a road bike.' I have no issue whatsoever with the SS I ride 'em myself, with brakes front and back. The coaster brake... no issues there either, but to not mount a front brake on a road style bike with only a coaster on the rear is , as many people have said here, a recipe for a lawsuit. Remember how much more work the front brake does as opposed to the back. The design of the bike say TARCK all over it, utterly and completely. So cruisers need not enter the argument as a comparison in stopping or speed capabilities.
Not hatin', but offering advice which OSOMAN can't grok. All for the everyman approach to marketing but remember it was an 'everyman' type the got a million because the McD's coffee cup didn't have a HOT warning.
The only other conclusion I can come up with is OSO is either too cheap to buy front brakes and install them on all bikes, or the markup is too attractive on them in what they charge the consumer for them. So is it too cheap or too greedy? Hell bump the price of the bike up 30 bucks and mount the darned brakes, call it an investment in staying out of court. Think of the legal fees, payouts and insurance costs you'll save.
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